denizli escort bayandenizli escort bayandenizli escort bayandenizli escort bayanantakya escortantakya escortantakya escortiskenderun escortiskenderun escortiskenderun escorteskişehir escorteskişehir escortdenizli escortdenizli escortdenizli escortdenizli escortdenizli escortdenizli escortdenizli escortdenizli escortdenizli escortdenizli escortdenizli escortdenizli escortmalatya escortmalatya escortgaziantep escortgaziantep escortgaziantep escort

izmir escort

antalya escort

izmir escort

porno

porno izle

bursa escort

escort

mobil porno

havalandirma sistemleri

antalya escort

takipçi satın alma

instagram beğeni hilesi

instagram takipçi hilesi

saha betonu

izmir escort

eskişehir escort bayan

Steering assist increase - Page 2
500 Madness
  
DiCorse
      
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2
Results 11 to 15 of 15

Thread: Steering assist increase

  1. #11
    Senior Member fast_dave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    SF Bay Area - PRK
    Posts
    263
    Thanks
    216
    Thanked 140 Times in 90 Posts
    @Commeatus

    RE: Highway speed "twitchiness"

    You might be experiencing highway speed twitchiness due to a manufacturing defect.

    Have the alignment - specifically the rear alignment - checked by a competent alignment shop with the latest equipment/alignment rack.

    Early builds - i.e. 2012 - have a reputation of having the rear suspension points welded to the rear floor pan ever so slightly off of the factory specification.

    This manufacturing defect leads to twitchiness & loose rear end feel.

    And, if the defect is off-of-specification enough from correct specs, a 500 can have a history of burnt out rear wheel bearings every couple of years of ownership.

    So many 2012 - 2013 cars were affected with this condition that Mopar eventually released a 500 rear shim kit to correct the problem.

    When we first bought our 2012 Sport, it was also unusually twitchy at highway speeds, as well as feeling loose in the rear end.

    I strategically waited a few weeks for a slow winter afternoon, so the tech could take his time, and brought it to a local shop in Walnut Creek that does only alignments (kind of rare these days, but they are located in an area that has a lot of body & frame repair shops).

    If I remember correctly, the tech found out that the rear passenger side toe in was out of factory spec. - it was positive - meaning the front of the wheel was slightly pointing outwards. In effect, it was "steering" the rear end, causing the car to "crab" down the road, thus making it unstable & twitchy.

    He knew about the shim kit, and one or two shims later the wheel hub was pulled back inwards and the alignment finally held to factory specs. Car now drives like it's a go-kart on railroad tracks.

    Hope that helps -

    MOPAR REAR AXLE ALIGNMENT SHIM KIT
    2012-2017 FIAT 500
    Part # 68236620AA


    500_shim_kit.jpg
    Last edited by fast_dave; 04-18-2021 at 08:23 PM.
    2012 Sport 5 speed Manual Trans, SPC Adjustable Front Camber Bolts, CorsaStrada Lower Front Chassis Brace, ST Rear Sway Bar, 205/45/16 Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport Tires

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to fast_dave For This Useful Post:

    rustbucket (04-18-2021)

  3. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    western Wisconsin
    Posts
    942
    Thanks
    907
    Thanked 495 Times in 318 Posts
    Alignment and/or tires should help. A competent alignment shop should find any suspension issues, i.e. damaged/ worn out components. My previous 500 Sport needed a driver's side A-arm when I traded it (80,000 miles) thanks to some of the third world roads in the Twin Cities ..... #&*% potholes! The other big thing as Hermiabarth noted are tires. The 500 is imho, a lot more sensitive to tire choice than other vehicles I've owned and at my age I've owned a few. The OEM Continentals on the 500 Sport tramlined from the beginning and got worse as they wore ... towards the end it would make the hair stand up on the back of your neck. All that went away with the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S3+ that replaced them. The P Zeros on my current Abarth don't like rain grooves- there's one set on I-394 (MN) that's so bad I thought I was going to have to find a priest to perform an exorcism .... "twitchy" doesn't begin to describe it. No such problem with my winter tires (Blizzak WS 80's).
    2018 FIAT 500 Abarth- manual, 17" wheels, sunroof, perla white tricoat, red leather, bone stock (for now) daily driver

    2020 Ram 1500 4x4 Big Horn crew cab- 5.7L eTorque Hemi (mild hybrid), 3.92 rear axle, diamond black crystal pearl coat

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to rustbucket For This Useful Post:

    fast_dave (04-19-2021)

  5. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    1,843
    Thanks
    12
    Thanked 399 Times in 308 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by fast_dave View Post
    @Commeatus

    RE: Highway speed "twitchiness"

    You might be experiencing highway speed twitchiness due to a manufacturing defect.

    Have the alignment - specifically the rear alignment - checked by a competent alignment shop with the latest equipment/alignment rack.

    Early builds - i.e. 2012 - have a reputation of having the rear suspension points welded to the rear floor pan ever so slightly off of the factory specification.

    This manufacturing defect leads to twitchiness & loose rear end feel.

    And, if the defect is off-of-specification enough from correct specs, a 500 can have a history of burnt out rear wheel bearings every couple of years of ownership.

    So many 2012 - 2013 cars were affected with this condition that Mopar eventually released a 500 rear shim kit to correct the problem.

    When we first bought our 2012 Sport, it was also unusually twitchy at highway speeds, as well as feeling loose in the rear end.

    I strategically waited a few weeks for a slow winter afternoon, so the tech could take his time, and brought it to a local shop in Walnut Creek that does only alignments (kind of rare these days, but they are located in an area that has a lot of body & frame repair shops).

    If I remember correctly, the tech found out that the rear passenger side toe in was out of factory spec. - it was positive - meaning the front of the wheel was slightly pointing outwards. In effect, it was "steering" the rear end, causing the car to "crab" down the road, thus making it unstable & twitchy.

    He knew about the shim kit, and one or two shims later the wheel hub was pulled back inwards and the alignment finally held to factory specs. Car now drives like it's a go-kart on railroad tracks.

    Hope that helps -

    MOPAR REAR AXLE ALIGNMENT SHIM KIT
    2012-2017 FIAT 500
    Part # 68236620AA


    500_shim_kit.jpg

    The MOPAR Rear Shim Kit was released under a TSB to bring the rear alignment toe to within specification.
    It had nothing to do with wheel bearings.
    2020 DODGE Challenger R/T Scat Pack Widebody
    Pitch Black
    8 Speed ZF
    --.-/ --- MPH - Bone Stock

    "I thought you had a HEMI. Yeah, I had to have a footprint gas pedal installed. So I stole this pile."

    2013 500 ABARTH
    Nero

    2014 SCCA Solo II Texas Region, 2nd G Street
    2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 SCCA Solo II Texas Region, Champion E Prepared

  6. #14
    Senior Member fast_dave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    SF Bay Area - PRK
    Posts
    263
    Thanks
    216
    Thanked 140 Times in 90 Posts
    True, the shim kits initial release was to bring rear alignment in line with factory specifications.

    Add to it that over the years, owners on this and the other forums have reported having a a 500 with a history of burning up rear a rear wheel bearing. Many have come to find out that it's due to their rear tire incorrectly having positive toe. The installation of shim kit also corrects that.

    Some of these 500's have had many owners, who for whatever reason, don't hold onto the car long enough to research into it and thus fully sort them out. The OP's car, despite having only 30,000 miles, has had 3 owners!!! Now it's on owner number 4.

    So, I'm just putting all the info out there, trying to help out a new owner/forum member with the possible issues to be aware of, what to watch for, and how to fix it.

    Hopefully for this 500 they will be the one that takes interest in it, sorts it out, and holds onto & enjoys it
    Last edited by fast_dave; 04-19-2021 at 01:50 AM.
    2012 Sport 5 speed Manual Trans, SPC Adjustable Front Camber Bolts, CorsaStrada Lower Front Chassis Brace, ST Rear Sway Bar, 205/45/16 Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport Tires

  7. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    1,843
    Thanks
    12
    Thanked 399 Times in 308 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by fast_dave View Post
    True, the shim kits initial release was to bring rear alignment in line with factory specifications.

    Add to it that over the years, owners on this and the other forums have reported having a a 500 with a history of burning up rear a rear wheel bearing. Many have come to find out that it's due to their rear tire incorrectly having positive toe. The installation of shim kit also corrects that.

    Some of these 500's have had many owners, who for whatever reason, don't hold onto the car long enough to research into it and thus fully sort them out. The OP's car, despite having only 30,000 miles, has had 3 owners!!! Now it's on owner number 4.

    So, I'm just putting all the info out there, trying to help out a new owner/forum member with the possible issues to be aware of, what to watch for, and how to fix it.

    Hopefully for this 500 they will be the one that takes interest in it, sorts it out, and holds onto & enjoys it
    The MOPAR Shim Kit was released under a TSB.
    If the Studio caught the alignment out of specification within 1 year/ 12K Mile Ownership, FCA would install the MOPAR Shim Kit Free of charge and check the alignment.

    Nothing at all to do with wheel bearings.

    Wheel bearings are a wear and tear item. They simply do not last forever. Most fail due to corrosion.
    Another case of cheap bearings and knock off replacement bearings not meeting OEM Specifications.
    2020 DODGE Challenger R/T Scat Pack Widebody
    Pitch Black
    8 Speed ZF
    --.-/ --- MPH - Bone Stock

    "I thought you had a HEMI. Yeah, I had to have a footprint gas pedal installed. So I stole this pile."

    2013 500 ABARTH
    Nero

    2014 SCCA Solo II Texas Region, 2nd G Street
    2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 SCCA Solo II Texas Region, Champion E Prepared

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2

Similar Threads

  1. Driver assist issues
    By 007Juan in forum Fiat 500L Issues and Concerns
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 10-31-2020, 02:35 PM
  2. BMW Parking Assist: Layering!
    By Andree in forum Car Talk
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 01-17-2014, 06:13 PM
  3. Parking Assist for Abarth
    By Brokernum1 in forum Fiat 500 Abarth Exterior and Interior Mods
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 12-15-2013, 05:10 AM
  4. Hill Assist? Really?
    By eatworksleepdie in forum Fiat 500 General Discussion
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 12-05-2011, 01:02 PM
  5. Hill start assist??
    By dan1malk in forum Fiat 500 General Discussion
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 06-22-2011, 02:43 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •