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    Best valuation for insurance claim ?

    Have been lurking for a while.

    Sadly, our 2014 Pop Cabrio, second owner with alloys and 60K miles was totaled over the Easter weekend.

    What is the best way to value it for insurance claim ?

    I looked for more than a year for that particular car and think it will be even harder now to find a replacement.

    All advice needed !

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    David Graves

    There don't seem to be any that have sold on EBAY motors.

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    Welcome to the forum. Sorry for you loss. You auto insurance company should know the value of you car. Minus your deductible. Here a some 2014 500’s for sale. Does it need to be a 2014 for a replacement?

    2014 500C’s

    https://www.cars.com/for-sale/search...51683&zc=66226

    2015 500C’s

    https://www.cars.com/for-sale/search...56007&zc=66226
    Last edited by smark; 04-09-2021 at 10:15 PM.

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    If you purchased the car in the last year, that will help in valuing the car. Don't sign any waivers (including stating you weren't injured) until a final valuation is made. I made that mistake and it cost me thousands, when they found a piece of retitled junk for sale, 200 miles away on a junker lot.

    I agree with smark, check those values for a similar car with similar mileage. Unfortunately, if you made any upgrades, that money is a loss. For instance, I had about $1400 ($1900 today) in wheels and tires; best they'd do is to allow me to swap them for the original wheels... the other upgrades were lost money.

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    Don't use Kelley Blue Book or similar - insurance will love it if you do. The market value of cars has skyrocketed in the last 18 months, a combination of Covid delays, Stimulus checks that make great down payments, the skyrocketing price of new cars, and the lack of any decent enthusiast cars in the lower price points.

    Insurance companies will want to see actual retail prices on similarly equipped vehicles. You can submit this yourself if you disagree with them - advertised prices from any major used car retailers are valid, just make sure the mileage and equipment are similar.

    We had this fight in 2016 when my GF's 2015 Nissan Versa Note was totalled. Hers had 15,000 miles on it (ie, still in warranty), and had EVERY option Nissan offered (SL+Tech) which meant it had SiriusXM, Navigation, SurroundView Cameras, etc. Geico came back lowballing the price and their sample vehicles on the price report either were stripped down SV models, or had 40,000+ miles (ie, out of factory warranty). They also marked her car as "Fair" condition despite the fact it was in nearly brand new condition. I had even made sure it had never gone through an automatic car wash, zero paint swirls, waxed regularly, etc. We got an outside appraiser to do an appraisal of her car's condition, which showed it to be "Excellent" and then submitted the (admittedly very few) similarly equipped / mileage cars being advertised for sale around the country, and got the appraisal bumped by several thousand dollars.
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    Sorry I'm unable to give a definitive answer myself, but it seems like you've been given some helpful suggestions

    Just for fun I'm linking this 2012 model. It seems this as a good price according to cars.com - I wonder where they get the price aggregate when it comes to a heavily modified track beast.

    At least it has a sub though...I'm sure the sound will be heard clearly when your tearing up the asphalt haha


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    @DavidGraves

    Your car has increased in value.

    Your formula w/ your Insurance Company should consider the Current Market Value in combination with your Maintance/Service Receipts & Photos showing the cars previous condition.

    Currently, Used Cars, especially small used cars, are currently at their highest value due to a triple-punch.

    The reasons; first, reduced car production due to Wuhan Corona Virus.

    The second is a recent fire at the Renessa Automotive Micro-Chip Factory in Japan leading to not enough chips for current scheduled levels of vehicle production.

    Third, US gas price increases the past 90 days.

    As a side note, I've noticed Carvana is buying up all the 500's they can, when 120 days ago you couldn't find any listed on their website.

    Research Ebay, AutoTrader, CarGurus, CarFax.Com, Edmunds.Com, Cars.Com...
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    The used vehicle, on Carvana are completely overpriced. Not even realistic. Small car are least in demand. There are still new brand 2019 500’s sitting on the Fiat lots. Gas prices have risen. Hasn’t stop the auto consumer, from buying large trucks, crossover, and SUV’s. Used cars, don’t increase value ‘wise. The automobile manufacturers, have dropped all their small cars. Gearing up for EV’s. Fiat ceased production of the Mexican built 500. So the pandemic would have nothing to do with’production. Or the chip Manufacturing fire in Japan.

    The insurance company will give you a fair price. You have the right to Challenge that Quoted price.

    To the Op, have you contacted you auto insurance provided yet!
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    Thanks for the reply.

    It took me about a year to buy my Fiat as I wanted a Cabrio and a green one to boot.....bought it based on photos and had it shipped 650 miles....and it was a good one owner.

    I am frankly unsure whether I will find the same arrangement again.

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    You should expect to get around $8,500 less any deductible if it was your fault.

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    Car was crashed into along with three others parked on the street.

    Very glad for no injuries for us.

    Very sad to loose a car we loved.

    What do you base that value on ?

    I am trying to find legitimate real time valuation for insurance ....as I want to go buy another 500c.

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