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    New DNA Motor Mount

    Is anyone running the new DNA motor mount ? What kind of difference did it make ? Which one did you get , street or competition one ? I wonder had bad the vibrations are with the competition one ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportfan View Post
    Is anyone running the new DNA motor mount ? What kind of difference did it make ? Which one did you get , street or competition one ? I wonder had bad the vibrations are with the competition one ?
    I ordered the street version from Robert but haven’t received it yet. I am thinking a couple more days before it arrives. I will probably be able to put it on the weekend after I get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sportfan View Post
    Is anyone running the new DNA motor mount ? What kind of difference did it make ? Which one did you get , street or competition one ? I wonder had bad the vibrations are with the competition one ?
    Just a warning.... you are going to break the drivers side aluminum transmission bracket/ bolt.

    The drivers side transmission mount has no pivot to it.
    Upgrading the Passenger Side, and the rear torque strut will transfer all the motor torque into that mount.

    The OEM drivers side mount can't handle all that torque transfer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddySRT View Post
    Just a warning.... you are going to break the drivers side aluminum transmission bracket/ bolt.

    The drivers side transmission mount has no pivot to it.
    Upgrading the Passenger Side, and the rear torque strut will transfer all the motor torque into that mount.

    The OEM drivers side mount can't handle all that torque transfer.
    Isn't a sloppy OEM mount more likely to cause issues as the engine can move further out of alignment before maximum force is applied? The maximum forces are the same regardless of the mount, the stiffer mount is just not going to let the engine twist quite as much. The extra vibration might cause issues I suppose, if only to your fillings. (P.S. not trying to be contrary, just trying to think it through before I break my car).

    Also the 500 Sport that sportfan drives makes substantially less torque than your average Abarth and the engine/trans weighs much less. As the mounts are the same, he should have much greater margins for error.
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    I have one. Plan to put it in this weekend. I will report back next week with a broken car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lammie200 View Post
    I have one. Plan to put it in this weekend. I will report back next week with a broken car.
    I've put many mechanical stress on my 2013 500 ABARTH... you can either listen to the warning or laugh it off.
    I filled the drivers side mount and rear torque strut. Within a week I broke the passenger mount bolt and bracket.

    When and if that passenger mount breaks, you are going to have a hell of a time getting the replacement aluminum transmission bracket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texanbrit View Post
    Isn't a sloppy OEM mount more likely to cause issues as the engine can move further out of alignment before maximum force is applied? The maximum forces are the same regardless of the mount, the stiffer mount is just not going to let the engine twist quite as much. The extra vibration might cause issues I suppose, if only to your fillings. (P.S. not trying to be contrary, just trying to think it through before I break my car).

    Also the 500 Sport that sportfan drives makes substantially less torque than your average Abarth and the engine/trans weighs much less. As the mounts are the same, he should have much greater margins for error.
    A solid mount will transfer all the torque and NVH into the mounting bolts.
    A sloppy mount will transfer torque and NVH, but much of it lost through other areas of the mount.

    The passenger mount is a single bolt through an rubber isolator that sandwiches the frame point into an aluminum bracket.
    Not a good design at all. This is the failure point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddySRT View Post
    I've put many mechanical stress on my 2013 500 ABARTH... you can either listen to the warning or laugh it off.
    I filled the drivers side mount and rear torque strut. Within a week I broke the passenger mount bolt and bracket.

    When and if that passenger mount breaks, you are going to have a hell of a time getting the replacement aluminum transmission bracket.
    I have the stock torque arm. DNA makes very well thought out components. This one is 80 durometer poly. What did you fill yours with? Also the weakest part of all 3 mounts is the rubber. Seems like that would blow out before metal damage. Maybe the lesson is to not fill the driver side and torque arm with poly? BTW, the new mount that I have is for the passenger side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lammie200 View Post
    I have the stock torque arm. DNA makes very well thought out components. This one is 80 durometer poly. What did you fill yours with? Also the weakest part of all 3 mounts is the rubber. Seems like that would blow out before metal damage. Maybe the lesson is to not fill the driver side and torque arm with poly? BTW, the new mount that I have is for the passenger side.
    Solid Passenger Mount + Solid Torque Strut = Broken Drivers Mount Bolt/ Transmission Bracket
    Plain and simple.

    Can you explain why DNA uses a $3.00 Italian Bearing versus a $40.00 SKF Bearing?
    Is it because they are Engineers... Nope.
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