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    will i notice a difference with a new fender style intake?

    hello, i bought my 2016 500 in december 2017 and the previous owner got the ec v2.1 intake. ive heard plenty of times the fender intake is better so im just wondering if i will actually feel a difference? i also happen to have the sila fmic which uses the stock piping on the passenger side :/ im wondering if i wont notice a difference because that hardware is holding me back? maybe i should just wait and get the better fmic first? id probably end up getting the ATM instead.. the atm fmic is 600+200 labor im guessing...so 800 total. the fender intake is probably going to be 350 including labor 400 max...

    so, will i notice a diff with the fender intake if i keep my sila fmic? or should i just keep holding out, and buy the atm fmic before replacing my intake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbodharma View Post
    hello, i bought my 2016 500 in december 2017 and the previous owner got the ec v2.1 intake. ive heard plenty of times the fender intake is better so im just wondering if i will actually feel a difference? i also happen to have the sila fmic which uses the stock piping on the passenger side :/ im wondering if i wont notice a difference because that hardware is holding me back? maybe i should just wait and get the better fmic first? id probably end up getting the ATM instead.. the atm fmic is 600+200 labor im guessing...so 800 total. the fender intake is probably going to be 350 including labor 400 max...

    so, will i notice a diff with the fender intake if i keep my sila fmic? or should i just keep holding out, and buy the atm fmic before replacing my intake?
    The fenderwell won’t really produce more power, but it won’t heat soak as poorly as the SILA intake. If you’re not noticing the heat soak now then you’ll probably not notice the difference.

    You should the difference with ATM FMIC. The superior end tank design, increased volume with a stepped core and reduction of the hot side piping should all improve the boost control. The SILA is a pretty poor solution in comparison.
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    I did the ATM install myself. You can save some money; there are good instructions on the forum and from ATM and NGen as I recall. Taking off the front clip is not very hard. The most difficult task was fitting the new hoses. One person can do the job, but, I recommend finding a helper - it makes things easier and it's good to have someone to listen to your inevitable cursing.

    Regarding the intake, I'm sure there are lots of opinions, In terms of max airflow the fender well intake is probably the best choice, but I think the EC version 3 with the ram air boot and a new intake filter is a cheaper and easier choice than the EC 2.1 intake; the version 3 does take in outside air, not hot under hood air - seems to me a better idea - might be a low buck alternative to the expense of the fender well set up.
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    i think ive decided to get the fender intake from orra since i can afford that right now, and try my best to save up for the ATM fmic later on. i noticed last summer that the heat soak was becoming an issue ..just held my performance back a bit from what i felt...hopefully the orra intake helps with that.

    btw i cant do the ec v3 intake because i dont have all the parts required for that to fit..previous owner got rid of the engine cover and all that when they put the v2.1 on i guess..

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    The more 90 degree bends in a pressure system the more static pressure you add to the system.

    The ATM Intercooler is the worst FMIC I have ever seen on my engineering days.
    There are (6) 90 degree bends within the ATM Intercooler itself.
    That is (6) areas of pressure and velocity drop in the heat exchanger alone.

    No Thanks.

    Look at the ORRA Intake and FMIC Set-up... all smooth radius elbows and low pressure/ velocity drop over the total system design.

    I'm going to need get one of those ORRA Intakes for my racecar... but my ACR is taking all my money now.
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    yea i like the orra one but its also 1100 dollars for the 7.5 litre design..vs 800 for atm...i dont track my car at all only street driving for me (but yes i like driving fast on local roads when they are practically empty or even the highway sometimes).

    keep in mind right now i have the sila fmic with the stock passenger intercooler pipe...thats how they designed it no idea why they didnt just include another silicone pipe lol..its also just a sh*tty fmic from my understanding.

    oh and as far as me working on my car myself...yea, thats just not realistic at all for me as i have literally only changed my oil with an extractor lol. id have to buy tools first ha!
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    Is atm still in business? They don't reply to emails or social media messages. That reminds me too much of rrm.

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    ill probably end up with the orra one as soon as possible along with an orra fender intake...i really wanted to do it this year by the time summer heat hits but now my wife and i have other stuff to worry about..idk hopefully we can afford it soon heheh

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    I respectfully disagree with the above critique of the ATM intercooler; It's very well constructed, has less piping than other fmics and maximizes the intercooler to plumbing ratio. There is good data on their website. ATM were very helpful with my install and instantly sent me a new hose, express courier no charge when I had a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermiabarth View Post
    I respectfully disagree with the above critique of the ATM intercooler; It's very well constructed, has less piping than other fmics and maximizes the intercooler to plumbing ratio. There is good data on their website. ATM were very helpful with my install and instantly sent me a new hose, express courier no charge when I had a problem.

    They were very helpful when I was fumbling through my install. Also they have responded within a day whenever I've emailed them.
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