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    60k mi. service

    Ok, the 2012 POP normally aspirated 1.4L has 65k miles on it so it is overdue for the 60k mi. service.

    I don't want to "clean the injectors" and do a bunch of other worthless stuff. I will change all the fluids, rotate the tires, put in new plugs (wish that they would just clean and gap the existing plugs-I changed them at 30k mi.) but I wonder is there anything else in the 60k mi service that really needs to be done?

    The air cleaner is a drop in BMC that I service myself.

    Maybe I should just skip it all together?

    Tedolph

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedolph View Post
    Ok, the 2012 POP normally aspirated 1.4L has 65k miles on it so it is overdue for the 60k mi. service.

    I don't want to "clean the injectors" and do a bunch of other worthless stuff. I will change all the fluids, rotate the tires, put in new plugs (wish that they would just clean and gap the existing plugs-I changed them at 30k mi.) but I wonder is there anything else in the 60k mi service that really needs to be done?

    The air cleaner is a drop in BMC that I service myself.

    Maybe I should just skip it all together?

    Tedolph
    You do the same Maintenance service, you did at the 30K mile mark. Check your owner manual.

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    If you have a sunroof or a convertible top they are supposed to be aligned and oiled every 30k. That's all I can think of.

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    I might have them change the tranny oil, if it's a manual, replace the cabin filter and plugs. The rest is an overall inspection, which I think is important... especially if it isn't performed by their lube dude.

    I'd make sure they know to not replace the air filter and that they discount the service accordingly. A friend had his wife's Jeep serviced and they charged $50 for an air filter. Sure enough, they'd tossed his K&M filter, because that's what the service called for. (I ran into the same "deal" with the only K&M I ever owned, by Hyundai service.)

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    This is off my Fiat app, on my iPhone. You only miss it by 1k miles


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    When does Fiat recommend, changing the manual transmission oil? I’m still wondering on the automatic transmission too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smark View Post
    When does Fiat recommend, changing the manual transmission oil?
    It's a lifetime service fluid. Which I took to mean "the lifetime of the warranty" and replaced at 50k.

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    Other than the plugs, air filter, oil change, tire rotation, sunroof cleaning and lube, everything else are just checks. Not a bad idea to have things checked, but most dealers aren't going to really check stuff besides doing a visual once over for leaks and torn boots. You've got the air fitlter covered and up to you about the tire rotations. The plugs are a cheap and easy replacement, and an oil change is always a good thing to do whenever you can.

    As for the sunroof, technically they want you to remove it (take the screws out on either side and remove. Make sure you DO NOT actuate the sunroof if the glass panel is out), clean the tracks and re-grease with a silicone grease. Most would just wipe off the old grease and put new grease on the tracks.

    Changing the trans oil is not a bad idea as long as no dirt gets into the transmission. Here's some info out of the maintanance manusl:

    STANDARD PROCEDURE - FLUID DRAIN AND FILL
    NOTE:
    The vehicle must be level when checking the fluid level.


    • The transmission drain plug (1) is located on the lower left side of the transmission differential housing. Tighten the drain plug to 18 Nm (13 lb ft.).
    • The transmission fill plug (1) is located on the left side of the transmission differential area.
    • The fluid level should be even with the bottom of the transmission fill hole. Tighten the fill plug to 25 Nm (18 lb ft.)

    C510/C514 - Service Fill


    Mopar C635 DDCT/MTX Transmission Fluid 1 Quart - 68092630AA.
    Capacity: 1.8 Quarts / 1.7 Liters

    In Europe, the recommended fluid is TUTELA CAR TECHNYX (SAE 75W-85, API GL 4 PLUS) or Castrol BOT 350 M3

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyfromVA View Post
    Manual's are pretty easy to change. I have changed the trans oil in my wife's 2012 Sport every 40,000 miles (64,000km)
    I've always used Mobil1 80W 90 synthetic transmission/gear fluid. Chances are you will notice smoother shifts.

    Put the front up on jack stands and remove the belly pan.
    Look at the bottom of the transaxle on the drivers side and you'll see the transaxle drain plug. At the end of the transaxle about 2/3 way up, you'll see the same sort of plug for filling.
    Drain out the old fluid and replace the plug. Getting a bottle in there to fill the upper hole is hard with just a bottle, so buy one of those pumps that can pump the fluid out of the bottle to a hose. Continue filling until the fluid starts to run out of the fill hole, then quickly put the fill plug back in. Just tighten either of these plugs until firm, but do not over-tighten, or risk stripping out the aluminum threads in the transaxle case. Put the belly pan back on and you're done!
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    I'd definitely at least check the manual transmission fluid level. And if you change it don't use a 75W90, it's too thick in the winter. The Mopar C series fluid is a 75W. You can also use something like the Fuchs Titan Sintopoid 75W80 fluid that Fuchs recommends for Fiats. Probably Redline MTL would work well too, it's a 75w80.

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    One thing I would also do is to clean the stock air oil separator and replace the valve on that assembly. I think this is more important on the the turbo charged models but its not that hard to do; I do this every 40K.

    Ngen has a good video on how to do it.



    parts : autozone has the valve, and for the o-ring I just go to a hardware store and get a "o ring" with the same material and size.
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