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    If we're playing on different levels I'd rather just bring the subie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babel View Post
    If we're playing on different levels I'd rather just bring the subie.
    I'd be in for that too! Winning and losing are just different outcomes to the same experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opiateESP View Post
    Yeah, I posted pics of it a while ago... never thought of mounting a switch to it though. Has anyone tried that?
    I added a switch on to my 2008 Caliber SRT-4 because the ESC System would only turn off 70%. I wanted 100% Full OFF. No more Nannies, just ABS.

    I added a switch on to my 2011 Charger R/T Road and Track because the ESC System would only turn off 70%. I wanted 100% Full OFF. No more Nannies, just ABS.

    I don't need to add a switch to my 2013 Challenger R/T Road and Track because the 6 Speed ESC Switch will disable the ESC System Full OFF by holding the switch for 6 seconds.
    I don't need to add a switch to my 2013 ABARTH because the ESC Switch will disable the ESC System Full OFF by holding the switch for 6 seconds.

    As you can see... Chrysler has been using the same Dynamic Yaw Sensor for a while now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddySRT View Post
    I added a switch on to my 2008 Caliber SRT-4 because the ESC System would only turn off 70%. I wanted 100% Full OFF. No more Nannies, just ABS.

    I added a switch on to my 2011 Charger R/T Road and Track because the ESC System would only turn off 70%. I wanted 100% Full OFF. No more Nannies, just ABS.

    I don't need to add a switch to my 2013 Challenger R/T Road and Track because the 6 Speed ESC Switch will disable the ESC System Full OFF by holding the switch for 6 seconds.
    I don't need to add a switch to my 2013 ABARTH because the ESC Switch will disable the ESC System Full OFF by holding the switch for 6 seconds.

    As you can see... Chrysler has been using the same Dynamic Yaw Sensor for a while now.
    I'll give it a shot. Did the cars throw any codes when you did this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by opiateESP View Post
    I'll give it a shot. Did the cars throw any codes when you did this?
    The ECM would store a DTC... but it wouldn't kick the MIL.

    Back before I had the VCDS and a hand held OBD Reader I would just disconnect the battery for a hard reset and remove all stored DTC's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddySRT View Post
    The ECM would store a DTC... but it wouldn't kick the MIL.

    Back before I had the VCDS and a hand held OBD Reader I would just disconnect the battery for a hard reset and remove all stored DTC's.
    Was the difference most notable in the corners?
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    Quote Originally Posted by opiateESP View Post
    Was the difference most notable in the corners?
    Running Sticky Tires throws the ESC System a Loop. Hard acceleration throws the ESC System a Loop. Hard Cornering throws the ESC System for a Loop.
    Running the Car on a FWD Dyno throws the ESC System a Loop because the front wheels are spinning, but the rears are stationary.

    Haven't you ever noticed during any form of aggressive driving that "Mr. Squiggles" in the Cluster blinks at you?
    The ESC System is chopping the throttle closed, adjusting timing, and cycling the ABS System to keep you in check.

    You think you are getting Full Throttle because your foot is on the floor, but the ESC System is controlling.

    The first thing that I always do when I drive the ABARTH or the Challenger is I turn the ESC System to Full OFF.
    Now... if it's raining, or extremely low ambients outside I will leave the system in Partial OFF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddySRT View Post
    Running Sticky Tires throws the ESC System a Loop. Hard acceleration throws the ESC System a Loop. Hard Cornering throws the ESC System for a Loop.
    Running the Car on a FWD Dyno throws the ESC System a Loop because the front wheels are spinning, but the rears are stationary.

    Haven't you ever noticed during any form of aggressive driving that "Mr. Squiggles" in the Cluster blinks at you?
    The ESC System is chopping the throttle closed, adjusting timing, and cycling the ABS System to keep you in check.

    You think you are getting Full Throttle because your foot is on the floor, but the ESC System is controlling.

    The first thing that I always do when I drive the ABARTH or the Challenger is I turn the ESC System to Full OFF.
    Now... if it's raining, or extremely low ambients outside I will leave the system in Partial OFF.
    When ESC is "off", I've only seen him blink at me in hard corners. Wheel spin on launch or breaking traction while punching it in a low gear doesn't cause issue so long as I'm going in a straight line. Sticky tires lessened the effect.
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    I wish we had some kind of launch control options, with ESC full on and UniChip Stage I I get a ton of wheel spin off the line and through the first few gears. There are cars I am faster than but due to wheel spin they'll outrun me. I know how I can make it launch better but I wish there was a button to engage such a feature when desired. Seems with ESC full off I'd be worse off.

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    We definitely see a lot more ABARTH's to turbos come in. There both very popular cars regardless because of the modification capabilities.
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