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    Abarth competitor making life hard

    Howdy,

    Just got this off of Jalopnik:

    http://jalopnik.com/subaru-brz/

    This from MotorTrend:

    http://wot.motortrend.com/2013-subar...cs-142245.html

    I'm of the mind that this car could very well be cross-shopped with the Abarth (at these prices, who wouldn't). 24k (Nav std) to start and topping out at $27k. Sheesh..... Man, how do you compete with that? Especially when, even if you're 6'3", you'll still fit? It has me wondering what it's going to take for Abarth to survive in such a market. Especially if they start at $24.5k...
    Last edited by geeded; 12-02-2011 at 07:39 PM. Reason: added MotorTrend Link


    "Careful Icarus...The Abarth abides..."

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    Meh....the Abarth has more torque. Frankly, I'm trying to figure out how in the heck they are squeezing a 16" disc brake into a 17" wheel on the Limited model or did I read that incorrectly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felnus View Post
    Meh....the Abarth has more torque. Frankly, I'm trying to figure out how in the heck they are squeezing a 16" disc brake into a 17" wheel on the Limited model or did I read that incorrectly?
    That is probably a typo.

    The car is tempting. It would allow me to stick with RWD and not go back to FWD.

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    Good news for Fiat and other manufacturers in this price range that the Toyota/Subaru twins don't look anywhere as sexy as the prototype shown at the New York auto show- that car was fantastic. The production model leaves me cold.
    Still 24K and RWD is a nice combo.

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    Let's not fool ourselves... this car is going to be a winner if they hit those prices. I know somebody who knows somebody that's driven it... stock it's supposedly wicked fun.
    http://www.chiptuning.co.nz/images/fiat-banner.jpg

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    odd that you should mention it, I was off at the scion site looking just yesterday. I didn't think it was ever aimed at the under 25k pricepoint though, and I didn't think it was so light. (I could find neither number on the scion)

    I signed up for their mailing list too.
    Maybe I'll swing by the toyota dealer tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Let's not fool ourselves... this car is going to be a winner if they hit those prices. I know somebody who knows somebody that's driven it... stock it's supposedly wicked fun.
    Realistically knowing Subie & Toyo Do you think performance and accessories can be delivered for this price point? I get Subies 'Drive' magazine and also Subies 'Performance' magazine which both give present Subie owners a heads up on what is soon to be coming out with what and knowing these companies to sell at this pricepoint would be one of those 'let's advertise at this price but realistically it will be about 4-5k more at sale'. OK, disagree with me, because I CAN'T stand arguments. But this is only MY opinion. Like new Subie Forester starts @ $20,595 but.... OK, ya want a little extra, ya want whats really available, ya want a little extra boost (Turbo)...NOW it starts, yes, starts at $29,895. About $9,300 more that the lure. Now... lets add what you really want. I am up to $33K. To me I spent 25,250 for my Fiat and I feel it is well worth it. My (OK, Hopeful) Abarth I expect to pay probably about $30. Boo me, go ahead, Fiat love me for saying it go ahead. But I an being realistic for what I will spend and don't forget, what I will want on it.
    I will move off the soapbox now.

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    A very different machine than the Abarth, but I think the original poster is right to see them as in the same cross-shopping sphere. I am SERIOUSLY considering this car. The only thing that may stop me is if my 6'3" 220lbs. self won't comfortably fit into it. I will know for certain at the Detroit International Auto Show in January.

    For those that are interested, we have a long and detailed discussion going on over at Focaljet about the GT/FR-S/BRZ triplets:

    http://forums.focaljet.com/team-pit-...86-europe.html

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    Odd, I wouldn't consider cross shopping it. Not because its a Toyota or a Scion, I just don't see the same nostalgia behind it as in say the FIAT or Mini. When I opened the first link, before I knew it was a co Toyota Scion model/platform the first thing that came to mind was it looks like a Scion... I like Toyota's and love the FJ Cruiser but then again that falls under the nostalgia section...maybe thats what seems to appeal to me in cars these days. I also love Alfa Romeo's and can't wait till those hit the US market. A 4C (baby 8C Competizione) is looking quite nice. I also wouldn't mind seeing a new 2013 Mazda RX7 redo based on the 70's first generation rotary.

    Max

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