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    Article on Abart

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    2015 Abarth Cabrio with OEM 695 Edizione Maserati parts.
    2015 500L Lounge edition

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    Gotta love American auto journalism. They road test the car when it's on the market and tell everyone it's garbage. Once it's no longer sold, they cry how it's a tragedy and how much we'll all miss the car and why aren't the OEMs doing their part, while they load up on $80,000 offerings that can do 0-60 in 3 seconds? I mean, isn't that what we ALL want? Hey, let's all watch Doug DeMuro try to get into the back seat with his cargo shorts and Old Navy T-shirt while he laughs to himself.

    Ugh.
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    Doug’s Abarth video was one of the videos which convinced me to buy the car. Fun. And price. Sold me
    2017 500 Abarth, manual trans, NAV, Beats, Sunroof, 17" wheels, everything. But no mods. None, nada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvmaster View Post
    Doug’s Abarth video was one of the videos which convinced me to buy the car. Fun. And price. Sold me
    Yeah. Once the price was depressed to $9000!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mp4guy View Post
    Yeah. Once the price was depressed to $9000!
    Prices on the retail market are shooting back up. Private party market is lagging because a lot of people are still remembering 2 years ago when you could get low mile Abarths for pennies on the dollar. Check retail used prices tho and you'll be shocked.


    Quote Originally Posted by mp4guy View Post
    Gotta love American auto journalism. They road test the car when it's on the market and tell everyone it's garbage. Once it's no longer sold, they cry how it's a tragedy and how much we'll all miss the car and why aren't the OEMs doing their part, while they load up on $80,000 offerings that can do 0-60 in 3 seconds? I mean, isn't that what we ALL want? Hey, let's all watch Doug DeMuro try to get into the back seat with his cargo shorts and Old Navy T-shirt while he laughs to himself.

    Ugh.
    Biggest issue I've seen with auto journalism in general is that they are jaded to expensive cars. They judge inexpensive cars as if they're expensive, and nitpick on things that really don't matter when you're paying half the price. For example those journalists who complain about "hard plastic" trim. Wtf? Hard plastic is DURABLE. Does anyone not remember the 1970s and 1980s when every car had a padded vinyl dash that cracked into a thousand pieces in the sun? Lack of "creature comforts" ... so what I don't get but warmer and ball coolers in my sears. Less to break, less to repair. A $18,000 car should NOT be compared to $50,000 cars yet they do it all the time. The Abarth was "slow" .. yeah, compared to cars twice its price!

    No back seat room? Who gives a sh??? I'm 47 and single no kids. I don't need a back seat. Basically every inexpensive car is "crap" according to the automotive press.
    2015 Rosso Abarth - MAD FIAT - 5 Speed - Phase 2
    2015 Granito Lucente 500T - Proyecto Estupido (Salvage) - Auto - OFT Stage 1
    2017 Fiat 124 Classica 6MT - WHUT????

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    Quote Originally Posted by aelfwyne View Post
    Prices on the retail market are shooting back up. Private party market is lagging because a lot of people are still remembering 2 years ago when you could get low mile Abarths for pennies on the dollar. Check retail used prices tho and you'll be shocked.




    Biggest issue I've seen with auto journalism in general is that they are jaded to expensive cars. They judge inexpensive cars as if they're expensive, and nitpick on things that really don't matter when you're paying half the price. For example those journalists who complain about "hard plastic" trim. Wtf? Hard plastic is DURABLE. Does anyone not remember the 1970s and 1980s when every car had a padded vinyl dash that cracked into a thousand pieces in the sun? Lack of "creature comforts" ... so what I don't get but warmer and ball coolers in my sears. Less to break, less to repair. A $18,000 car should NOT be compared to $50,000 cars yet they do it all the time. The Abarth was "slow" .. yeah, compared to cars twice its price!

    No back seat room? Who gives a sh??? I'm 47 and single no kids. I don't need a back seat. Basically every inexpensive car is "crap" according to the automotive press.
    Yeah, I don't fondle my dash all that much, so I'm not overly concerned about how padded it is. I'm much more interested in how it holds up, and softer plastics tend to degrade more easily than harder ones. Then again I remember those hard plastic GM dashboards from the '80s that decomposed into chalky white powder - but it was GM after all.
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    Fiat was selling Abarth at one time for up to $30K. I was found it amusing, how they placed a leather hood, over the speedometer cluster. While the rest of the interior, was covered in cheap hard plastic. Flimsy switch gear too. It does have Beautifully designed dashboard. The Abarth is based off a economy 500 platform. With performance add ones. Other car manufacturers still offer hard plastic’s in their vehicle too. There plastic, and interior materials, are of a better quality, from America, Korean, and Japanese. The rear seat are fine for Short lunch time trips at work for four people.

    Fiat listened, and has addressed interior material quality in the 3rd generation 500e. The dash switch gear is refined, has up to date electronic. Soft touch materials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalfPint View Post
    Yeah, I don't fondle my dash all that much, so I'm not overly concerned about how padded it is. I'm much more interested in how it holds up, and softer plastics tend to degrade more easily than harder ones. Then again I remember those hard plastic GM dashboards from the '80s that decomposed into chalky white powder - but it was GM after all.
    It's got the right stuff where it counts - Abarth leather seats are good and the steering wheel is great. I love my scorpion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aelfwyne View Post
    Prices on the retail market are shooting back up. Private party market is lagging because a lot of people are still remembering 2 years ago when you could get low mile Abarths for pennies on the dollar. Check retail used prices tho and you'll be shocked.




    Biggest issue I've seen with auto journalism in general is that they are jaded to expensive cars. They judge inexpensive cars as if they're expensive, and nitpick on things that really don't matter when you're paying half the price. For example those journalists who complain about "hard plastic" trim. Wtf? Hard plastic is DURABLE. Does anyone not remember the 1970s and 1980s when every car had a padded vinyl dash that cracked into a thousand pieces in the sun? Lack of "creature comforts" ... so what I don't get but warmer and ball coolers in my sears. Less to break, less to repair. A $18,000 car should NOT be compared to $50,000 cars yet they do it all the time. The Abarth was "slow" .. yeah, compared to cars twice its price!

    No back seat room? Who gives a sh??? I'm 47 and single no kids. I don't need a back seat. Basically every inexpensive car is "crap" according to the automotive press.
    Man, you were right about prices going up. Just checked Autotrader to see what Abarths were going for and both dealer and private party prices are solidly in the mid 10s! No giveaways.

    Maybe people are realizing how good the cars are now that you can't get a new one.

    I'm not planning on selling for awhile, but this looks encouraging. The same thing is happening to Alfa 4Cs based on what I see on Bring a Trailer. No more $45,000 cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mp4guy View Post
    Man, you were right about prices going up. Just checked Autotrader to see what Abarths were going for and both dealer and private party prices are solidly in the mid 10s! No giveaways.

    Maybe people are realizing how good the cars are now that you can't get a new one.

    I'm not planning on selling for awhile, but this looks encouraging. The same thing is happening to Alfa 4Cs based on what I see on Bring a Trailer. No more $45,000 cars.
    Definitely. I just signed for a 2017 124 Spider with 22k miles (I get it Tuesday if all goes well!) and it was a shade over $20k. Low mile (2000-5000 mile) used 2019/2020 examples are actually going for OVER MSRP at major used car sites in some cases.
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