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    Quote Originally Posted by smark View Post
    She has 57K miles on the Jeep. The original brakes have just been fine, till the other day. The dealership, said she had at least another 5-6K pad left on the front ones. She just paid it off, a couple weeks ago too. It’s lucky we have several vehicles, she can drive. She a realtor, and depends on her work car. She racks up a lot of miles on that car. It should be finished tomorrow. It’s very lucky she didn’t get hurt.
    Apparently, this is a widespread issue on the earlier cars. Read the bottom one, that's quite scary. I didn't think that the wheels can lift off the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smark View Post
    Thanks that would have been a good option. She was just lucky to make it the FCA dealership. It was just around the corner. The dealership called, they found something else wrong with the front brakes too. Not sure what. She told me, The brake indicated did go off. Right when the brakes failed. So much for that.
    Yeah, I can see how that system would fail immediately. Immediate fails happen so seldom on the road that I thought maybe the light wasn't working. I would guess she lost 2 brakes? Some are connected diagonally, others to the axle, but the other 2 should have fluid enough to stop. If she was using the hand brake, probably only one side was working. Seriously scary!

    At 57K, I imagine the front pads could be worn down? I don't know how quickly Jeeps wear out their pads, but I replaced the brakes on my Ranger at 60K. The truck was over 20 yo, so was bleeding the brakes when I noticed the pads were nearly gone... so built the whole system. It's a job that's inexpensive at home, but I imagine expensive at the dealer. After that fail I might insist on non-OEM parts.

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    Do you suspect frozen moisture in the caliper hydraulics to have contributed to the casting cracking? Did this happen near in timing to a sudden hard freeze?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pasomoto View Post
    Do you suspect frozen moisture in the caliper hydraulics to have contributed to the casting cracking? Did this happen near in timing to a sudden hard freeze?
    70 degrees out, when it happened.

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    It looks like Fiat didn't fix the problem. 2020 Renegades and 500X were recalled for the RR caliper cracked during casting (2020's recalled on Jan 2020). https://chrysler.oemdtc.com/1452/saf...gade-fiat-500x

    The rear wheels lifting off the ground during braking were 2015 Euro cars with grippier tires than US cars get. The "fix" was to decrease braking on the front (increase braking distance?) when it maybe needed stiffer front springs. Reported cases in the US are contaminated brake pads, calipers that drag, and a couple cases of sudden acceleration during slow speed braking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by map View Post
    It looks like Fiat didn't fix the problem. 2020 Renegades and 500X were recalled for the RR caliper cracked during casting (2020's recalled on Jan 2020). https://chrysler.oemdtc.com/1452/saf...gade-fiat-500x

    The rear wheels lifting off the ground during braking were 2015 Euro cars with grippier tires than US cars get. The "fix" was to decrease braking on the front (increase braking distance?) when it maybe needed stiffer front springs. Reported cases in the US are contaminated brake pads, calipers that drag, and a couple cases of sudden acceleration during slow speed braking.
    Interesting, that recall I guess didn’t affect her 2016 Renegade. 2020 ones. It’s sounds, like that’s what happen to her Jeep. The dealership fixed another, recall on her Jeep. Not sure what that was?

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    Fiat 500X Recall VE8 Rear Brake Caliper

    Safety Recall VE8 Fiat 500X Rear Brake Caliper

    Models
    2019-2020 (BV) Jeep Renegade
    2020 (FD) Fiat 500X


    Issue
    On a batch of Jeep Renegade and Fiat 500X vehicles, due to a production process
    problem, the rear right caliper may display cracks and consequently lose its braking
    capacity. For this reason, the production date must be checked and, if necessary,
    the brake caliper must be replaced.

    The right side rear brake caliper must be checked and in case replaced.

    Parts

    Part Number / Quantity / Description

    CSAKVE81AA / 1 Right rear brake caliper / replacement kit


    The kit contains the following components:
    1 Right side rear brake caliper
    1 Set of rear brake pads (including 4 pads, 4 screws and 4 clips)



    Procedure
    Operation 1 - Check of the right side rear brake caliper


    1. Position the vehicle on the lift and lift it.
    2. Check the number on the caliper. If it
    corresponds to number 1879 the caliper is NONCONFORMING (NOK).
    3. Proceed by replacing the brake caliper.
    4. If the number is different, the brake caliper
    is conforming (OK).
    5. Lower the lift, remove the vehicle and
    release it back to the customer

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    Her Renegade is a 2016 model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smark View Post
    Her Renegade is a 2016 model.
    Wow, that is too much of a coincidence to have the same issue. You may want to contact Fiat Cares to put a complaint on record in, but also I would definitely report it to the NHTSA. Save the receipt and you may wind up getting a reimbursement if the recall is expanded. See if you can get the old part.

    NHTSA Complaint Link: https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/
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    I just told my daughter about the recall of the 2020 renegade. She says, if figures after spending $1k having it fixed. She has a leaking tail lamp on back order, from parts. She can at least ask them about it.

    Did they change the caliber designed. A bunch of bad casted ones for 2020 model year. Her Jeep had miles on it before it broke. On her car they replaced both rear sides calipers, rotors, and the pads.

    Her Jeep has been a really dependable vehicle, after 4 years. Nothing major has happen, except the brakes. A safety switch under the hood release failed. She wasn’t able to use the remote start feature. Just replace the battery, and new tires.

    She would like to own, a Honda Ridgeliner for her next vehicle.
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