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    Quote Originally Posted by mvanders View Post
    I am doing the Tork Tune. Waiting for the file will let you know after I upgrade.
    Biggest issue to a new larger turbo, from my perspective, is that there are a lot of other parts you would need to upgrade to fully utilize the larger turbo potential. I am using this car to drive as a daily driver (no track) and have a much faster car if I really want speed. For me, the mods are for fun, so your use case may vary.
    Biggest issue with doing mods is trying to find out what is actually worth it. Always seem to get contradictory answers when I ask questions so you really need figure out who to trust...... Just my opinion
    Let us know how the Tork tune works out? While I want a tune, my car gets a lot of track use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvanders View Post
    I bought a 2019 Abarth with 67 miles on it last week. Have spent many hours on these threads reading and trying to figure things out. I understand $ need to be considered when choosing mods, but this is my fun/experimental
    car and dont mind spending some money, which I can work on the car with my kids. Thus far I have installed a GFB DV+ and noticed an immediate improvement in acceleration. I have a sway bar, brakes and other handling mods on the way. BUT What is the best way forward for performance (acceleration and speed)? I understand there are models built with larger turbos (not released in the US)and other performance tweaks, which leads me here. Would it be better to spend the $1200-1600 to get a larger turbo, or to start by doing mods? There is another thread on age, Have to admit I am almost 50, but the years have taught me that if you do it cheap, you do it twice, so do it right the first time. Open to any opinions on larger turbos or performance tuning. Also what is the best tune available. Dont want to spend time decoding CELs.
    Thanks for all of your help, this is such a great forum!
    does it make sense to let the engine break in more in standard power. Such low mileage the engine is pretty tight still.
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    Get the tune first then slowly add all the other supporting mods for the big turbo. I have a tork tuned and I threw down 186/219 with just an intake and 2.5” catback exhaust. Now I have the catless dp and a fmic and stuffed turbo. Waiting to get retuned soon from tork. Also my car had 115k miles on it and still threw down with stock intake 159/178. We were both shocked about that lol

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    From my experience when modifying the abarths, Starting with a Tune of your choice, intake, DV+ coils and plugs is a rock solid smooth setup. Add a proper Boost gauge so you can actually monitor factual boost.

    From there I would personally next upgrade the intercooler for more consistent boost pressure, and cooler charge. I do find that modifying the abarth's are a but of a slippery slop, and tend to have diminishing advantages. I found my car to be the best with the first list of basic engine mods, and leaving it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlkAbarth View Post
    Get the tune first then slowly add all the other supporting mods for the big turbo. I have a tork tuned and I threw down 186/219 with just an intake and 2.5” catback exhaust. Now I have the catless dp and a fmic and stuffed turbo. Waiting to get retuned soon from tork. Also my car had 115k miles on it and still threw down with stock intake 159/178. We were both shocked about that lol
    219?! damn that full exhaust must be doing alot i guess?? something for me to consider if we get another check lol

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    Nope. The tune is the winner. Cat-back is a minimal benefit and the DP is a larger power benefit but all told, exhaust reduces EGTs which are high up on these cars. The tork tune had the most benefit to lowering EGTs compared to all common bolt ons. Water/meth has had an equal benefit as well.


    2015 Fiat 500 Abarth
    Power:V4.1 Intake, Forge BOV, EC FMIC, 4C coils, Tork Beta Tune, ATP downpipe, Boost Leak Fix, Turbosmart WGA
    Handling: H&R 5mm spacers, El Gato Front Braces, Tork Rigid Collars, Fat Cat Motorsports Revalved Bilsteins, CPR lower brace, Fat Cat Bump Stops
    DSP/D-class (local club classing)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttforcefed View Post
    max hp on stock turbo is approx 230 to the wheel which is about 120 more to the wheels than stock.

    LOL more like 200-210whp. I'm on meth and with a properly configured dyno I am not over 205whp.


    2015 Fiat 500 Abarth
    Power:V4.1 Intake, Forge BOV, EC FMIC, 4C coils, Tork Beta Tune, ATP downpipe, Boost Leak Fix, Turbosmart WGA
    Handling: H&R 5mm spacers, El Gato Front Braces, Tork Rigid Collars, Fat Cat Motorsports Revalved Bilsteins, CPR lower brace, Fat Cat Bump Stops
    DSP/D-class (local club classing)
    #notscare

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