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    Fiat 500 who designed this car?

    This guy, is replacing a seized alternator on a Fiat 500. He dug he’s own grave, to preform the task. The the alternator was installed, on the engine when it was at the plant. Replacing it is a pain. I use to be able to replace a alternator on a 60-70’s American made car. In less then 30 minutes.

    Everyone, should give him a call. Let him, how he did. His telephone number, is on the dogs collar.

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    Nothing unusual - you can tell people who actually work on cars from those that don't by how shocked they are at perfectly typical mechanic work like this. Something's got to go on the bottom back side, and it's often the alternator. You should have seen what I had to do to change the alternator on my '99 Mercury Cougar with a transverse Duratec V6.
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    "I'll stick with my Pontiac Vibe for now."

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    Small cars are harder to work on than big trucks? I'm shocked I tell you!!!
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    Geez, look at that trench... rhino ramps right on the edge. That soil/gravel just has to collapse in and you're pinned.

    Dangerous dangerous dangerous.
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    The joke is, he's comparing swapping the alternator in his truck. I don't know which engine he has, but my contractor (next door neighbor) had a similar truck with the big diesel engine... the super tow package model the size of a motor home. He bought it at 82K miles, when the former owner had an exhaust manifold replaced. 40K miles later, another manifold cracked. The way these are replaced was to pull the cab off the truck. 18 months later, the other side cracked. They must have shorted something on the second repair because he went thru 5 different computer modules in the next weeks (never the same one twice). Granted, he had over 150K by then... but two years later I saw him as he came out of the hospital. Traveling at 40 MPH, a car pulled in front of him. He hit the brakes, something in the rear end locked, swerved him into the curb, and flipped the truck on its side, trapping his arm beneath the cab.

    So, yeah, most vehicles have parts that suck to replace.

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    He shouldn't bought the FIAT 500 that has a Tornado attached to the motor.
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    Pretty much every small front wheel drive car has the alternator buried on the back these days. Nothing unique to Fiat.

    Had to change one a few years ago on a 97 Mazda 626 .... factory procedure was to use a lift and remove the crossmember from under the engine. Didn't have a lift, so I removed the entire intake manifold and took it from above. You do what you have to.

    As others have said, anyone who is surprised by this hasn't worked on a car since 1967.
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    In the 70’s a new alternator cost you around $35.00. With the core return. Because of today’s electronics. Alternators need to have higher output. Cost a lot more. I wonder why there such a price range different, on new ones. Here’s example of 500 costs alternators, from Rock Auto.

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    https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...generator,2412

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    The price difference is between rebuilt and Mopar factory parts (new), I think. Not all alternators were cheap in the 70's and 80's... but yes, alternators are smarter today.

    My B-in-law had a Shelby Omni and the alternator failed in 1988. The replacement cost was a over $200 at the dealer, plus installation, $160 for a rebuild at the parts store, about $350 in today's money. I yanked it and found one of the diodes had fallen out. As was common in the period, they were held in place by clips and the factory glue had let loose. To insure max life, I took it to the generator/alternator rebuild shop in town. The cost was around $40 and we had it back on the road the same day.
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