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    Differences between 2016 Fiat 500x Pop and Easy

    Hey all. First time poster here. Love the forum.

    Anyways, I am debating whether to pull the trigger on the used 2016 Fiat 500x. I have narrowed it down to these two options: 2016 500X Pop and 2016 500x Easy. I could use a little help if anyone has suggestions or pro tips.

    My questions are:

    (1) Are the main differences between the 2016 pop and easy the 160 hp 6 speed versus the 180 hp 9 speed? Will I be disappointed with the pop level 500x with only 160 horsepower?

    (2) How long can I expect to drive either car without reliability concerns? The pop model has ~38k miles and the easy model has ~$43000.

    (3) I am looking to pay about $10,200-300 before taxes, title, dealer fees, etc. Is this a smart move and reasonable pricing?

    Thanks for any help.

    (I currently drive a 2015 fiat 500e and I am looking to step up to a bigger car but stay in the Fiat family.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliFiat View Post
    Hey all. First time poster here. Love the forum.

    Anyways, I am debating whether to pull the trigger on the used 2016 Fiat 500x. I have narrowed it down to these two options: 2016 500X Pop and 2016 500x Easy. I could use a little help if anyone has suggestions or pro tips.

    My questions are:

    (1) Are the main differences between the 2016 pop and easy the 160 hp 6 speed versus the 180 hp 9 speed? Will I be disappointed with the pop level 500x with only 160 horsepower?

    (2) How long can I expect to drive either car without reliability concerns? The pop model has ~38k miles and the easy model has ~$43000.

    (3) I am looking to pay about $10,200-300 before taxes, title, dealer fees, etc. Is this a smart move and reasonable pricing?

    Thanks for any help.

    (I currently drive a 2015 fiat 500e and I am looking to step up to a bigger car but stay in the Fiat family.)
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    I did my research and wouldn’t even consider the 2.4/auto. It’s just not an appealing combo. The power comes late and at 45 I’m wayyyy to young for auto transmission boredom.

    The 1.4/manual is the fastest 0-60 and 1/4mile of any 500X offered. Any upgrade gets a slower, less engaging car.

    I bought mine new at the end of 2016 for $16,200 and have in the neighborhood of 76k miles. It had a leaky oil return from the turbo, and the usb went bad - warranty took care. At around 62k miles I had AC problems; my supplemental extended warranty took care of it. I change the oil and spark plugs myself, easily. The car is a joy to own and makes me smile every day. And I’ve never not had fun exciting cars, I refuse to settle for practical boring cars.

    Im actually very disheartened that they now force auto and AWD. I had hopped to trade in on something like the new Sport but there’s no way now. I won’t give up this much daily fun for “looks nicer” but slower and boring to drive. Yeah I’m bitter about that.
    16’ 500X Pop, Rosso, 1.4T/M6, 18” O.Z. 45th Anniversary wheels, H&R springs, Momo shift knob, MPX Throttle Body, Magnaflow (Renegade) cat-back with custom 2.5” B-pipe by http://stagefp.com/...

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    Thanks, really appreciate the advice. How did you manage to get a new 2016 for $16,200? That seems to be around $4k less than sticker.

    Even now, a used 2016 with sub-20k miles will run 12-15k. Thanks again.

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    Our family has both a 500L (2014 with DDCT) and a 2017 500X Trekking Plus (2.4 liter 9-speed AWD). I'm fine with the X, but if I were honest I'd say it's a bit of a disappointment, mainly because of the powertrain. It rides a little rougher than our 500L as well, and never feels quite as settled over road imperfections and undulations.

    I love the ride of our Elle, and from what I understand, the FWD versions of the 500X might have given the better ride over the AWD version, as they had a lower ride height compared with their AWD stable mates (if it's similar to the ride of the 500L, that would be a very good thing). And I really enjoy the 1.4 liter turbo in the Elle. As uninspiring the 2.4 liter engine is, the 1.4 is the opposite. Really punches above its weight, so to speak, with a nice fat torque curve. The 2.4 liter NA engine doesn't have that much low end grunt surprisingly, for such a large 4 cylinder, so you kind of have to rev it to make it go with any sort of verve. Also, as you may have found in your research, the 1.4 liter can be tuned for more power and torque easily enough with a flash to the ECU, available from a number of vendors.

    I can't recall anyone who owns a 1.4 liter powered 500X be anything but pleased with the car, especially those who have them with the manual transmission. I don't recall if the 1.4 liter turbo powered 500X (MY 2016) came with anything but a manual. If it were offered with an automatic, it almost certainly would have been the DDCT that we have in our 500L. I've had great results with that transmission, but to be on the safe side you may wish to steer clear of it, as it could be prone to problems (not just related to the clutches either).

    Something else to consider: The 2.4 liter powered 500X's specifically MY2016 came with different motor mounts from what came with the MY2017 and later variants. The later gen mounts can be retrofitted (possibly free of charge, but you would have to register a complaint, as I recall). The 2016 motor mounts gave the car a heck of a shake at idle, esp. stopped in gear (brakes applied). People say the new mounts give the perception of a better ride quality as well, for what its worth.

    It would be a wonderful thing if Fiat were to offer the 1.3 liter turbo with a manual transmission here stateside. I gather the generation II version of the ZF 9-speed auto is quite an improvement over the prior generation, but still I can't believe it would be anywhere near as satisfying as a manual (which is the "standard" transmission in 500X's offered in Europe, I believe, otherwise a DDCT).

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    Thanks ronbo10. Is the engine mount shaking referring to the transmission recall or that something entirely different?

    Also, HUGE pointer on the manual version regarding the base model 500x. I wasn't aware the pop was only offered with a manual.

    It looks like I will be forced to go with the 2.4 L 9 speed automatic then even though it's a bit more sluggish.

    Thank you again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliFiat View Post
    Thanks ronbo10. Is the engine mount shaking referring to the transmission recall or that something entirely different?

    Also, HUGE pointer on the manual version regarding the base model 500x. I wasn't aware the pop was only offered with a manual.

    It looks like I will be forced to go with the 2.4 L 9 speed automatic then even though it's a bit more sluggish.

    Thank you again.
    You piqued my interest, CaliFiat. I did a Cars.com search nationwide of 2016 Pop's and it would appear that you could get the 500X in Pop trim for that year with an automatic transmission, but the U.S. spec dictated that the automatic (that ZF 9-speed) be paired with the 2.4 liter NA engine. If you got the1.4 liter engine, it looks like it would have had to be the manual transmission.

    You know, the Dual Dry Clutch Transmission (DDCT) was mercilessly maligned by the auto press stateside when the 500L was launched here in 2014. Though that transmission continued to be offered on the 500L (Pop Trim only) in the states beyond 2014 (higher trim levels MY 2015 and beyond came with the Aisin 6-speed auto slushbox), Fiat USA apparently made a point to not offer the DDCT on the 500X, even though the DDCT continues to be offered in other markets even today.

    With regard to the motor mounts, no, it had nothing to do with any transmission recall, and in fact wasn't a recall per se, but rather an improvement for 2017-2018 500X's that was made available to customers with 2016 MY 500X's if they complained about their shaking engine. Apparently to some folks it wasn't that important, but I thought it was nearly intolerable. I wouldn't have bought our 2017 500X had the issue not been addressed by Fiat, it was that bad (to me). If the example you are considering to purchase is being sold by a dealer, they could probably look it up in the maintenance history to see if the work has been accomplished. You could perhaps check out a 2017 or 2018 500X at a dealer and compare to see what I'm talking about- it's quite noticeable on the MY2016's if the motor mounts are OEM.

    Good luck on what you decide to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliFiat View Post
    Thanks, really appreciate the advice. How did you manage to get a new 2016 for $16,200? That seems to be around $4k less than sticker.

    Even now, a used 2016 with sub-20k miles will run 12-15k. Thanks again.
    It was. They pulled the car over from another dealer in their network. I already had the loan preappoved at my credit union, it is as late October and the 2017s were on the way in, and that’s what I offered them. I walked for a week till they called me back and agreed.
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    16’ 500X Pop, Rosso, 1.4T/M6, 18” O.Z. 45th Anniversary wheels, H&R springs, Momo shift knob, MPX Throttle Body, Magnaflow (Renegade) cat-back with custom 2.5” B-pipe by http://stagefp.com/...

    13’ 500 Abarth, Bianco, M5,
    17”, Koni shocks, Eibach Prokit, CFP Hats, ES/EC bumpstops and seats, Powerstop rotors and pads. (Wife's)

    95’ Wrangler, Aqua, 4.0/Auto,
    33” on 15x8”, 4” lift, too much to list here (Also Hers)

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    well, they (the usa fiat people) they added rev matching shifts so it really helped out some of the issues. Its not just fiat but my bro just bought a 2020 Malibu RS he drove the 2019 version and the trans was a bit of a mess. So they redid the CVT and he said its a lot better. The Easy will come with way more stuff, so thats the trim to get ether easy or trekking.

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    But other than the the daily endless fun, I get around in snow like I doesn’t exist because of the clutch pedal. If people knew how to drive like back before AWD was a necessity, we wouldn’t have a need for all the wasted weight of it.
    16’ 500X Pop, Rosso, 1.4T/M6, 18” O.Z. 45th Anniversary wheels, H&R springs, Momo shift knob, MPX Throttle Body, Magnaflow (Renegade) cat-back with custom 2.5” B-pipe by http://stagefp.com/...

    13’ 500 Abarth, Bianco, M5,
    17”, Koni shocks, Eibach Prokit, CFP Hats, ES/EC bumpstops and seats, Powerstop rotors and pads. (Wife's)

    95’ Wrangler, Aqua, 4.0/Auto,
    33” on 15x8”, 4” lift, too much to list here (Also Hers)

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    Thank you again Ronbo10 and Mikey.

    Mikey: That is a one really good buy you got.

    Ronbo: I agree - it seems the 9 speed automatic transmission is optional in the 2016 Pop model. With that being said, it comes standard in the Easy and the Easy is ~$2500 more than the Pop ( at least back in 2016 if you look at MSRP). Thus this begs the question: How much extra it would have cost to add the optional 9 speed to the Pop model? But even then assuming it would not add $2500, it still it would not come with the automatic starter, as you mentioned. Thus probably not worth it, but still an option I suppose. The strange thing is I found an easy with 42k miles priced lower than a 2016 pop with the optional 9 speed with 38k miles. Appears to be a no brainer assuming all things are equal. I will have to do a manual inspection and title history check to determine if it really is strange pricing. But in any event, it is good to know the pop can come with an optional automatic.

    Thanks again.

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