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    Before and after. The emblem is a bit battered after 60 years and someone repainting it twice (and damaging some of the plating). The new paint was easier to use but is different than ones I used in the past. I could do better on a second try, but this is good enough. This is one of 4 I've seen (even on the I-net), none on a car and the second in original colors.

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    The bumpy finish is normal for this emblem. The gold plated aluminum is cast bumpy, much like the FIAT emblems. I think these were applied only to Neckars of '61 to '64 to replace the similar shaped FIAT logo insert on the hood ornament. Few Italian FIATS were imported; those built by Neckar would have the oval Neckar emblem or the NSU-FIAT logo, making this fairly rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by map View Post
    Before and after. The emblem is a bit battered after 60 years and someone repainting it twice (and damaging some of the plating). The new paint was easier to use but is different than ones I used in the past. I could do better on a second try, but this is good enough. This is one of 4 I've seen (even on the I-net), none on a car and the second in original colors.

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    The bumpy finish is normal for this emblem. The gold plated aluminum is cast bumpy, much like the FIAT emblems. I think these were applied only to Neckars of '61 to '64 to replace the similar shaped FIAT logo insert on the hood ornament. Few Italian FIATS were imported; those built by Neckar would have the oval Neckar emblem or the NSU-FIAT logo, making this fairly rare.
    Wow, nice find and a gorgeous emblem. Great job on the restore. Lots of history in these badges and companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by map View Post
    Before and after. The emblem is a bit battered after 60 years and someone repainting it twice (and damaging some of the plating). The new paint was easier to use but is different than ones I used in the past. I could do better on a second try, but this is good enough. This is one of 4 I've seen (even on the I-net), none on a car and the second in original colors.

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    The bumpy finish is normal for this emblem. The gold plated aluminum is cast bumpy, much like the FIAT emblems. I think these were applied only to Neckars of '61 to '64 to replace the similar shaped FIAT logo insert on the hood ornament. Few Italian FIATS were imported; those built by Neckar would have the oval Neckar emblem or the NSU-FIAT logo, making this fairly rare.
    That is very cool, thanks for sharing
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    Thanks. On the bronze emblem, I'll have to keep my eyes open for that one; thought they were tarnished gold when I first saw yours. 1966-74 124 Spider and 1966-72 Sports Coupe, but I'm not sure if all those had bronze or if some bore the silver emblems. Does yours have any markings on the back? (I've seen several that were reproductions, like the one in this photo.) I have one that was originally bronze or gold, but all the "gold" turned black, common for those that saw a lot of light. I bought it because it's an interesting look.
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    New to the collection is Autobianchi SPA. A bicycle builder until the founder passed, Giuseppe Bianchi joined with Pirelli and Fiat in 1955 and built their first car in 1957, using this logo on the '57 and '58.



    In 1964 Autobianchi installed Fiat's new drivetrain in their attractive Primula to test its practicality. That drivetrains was eventually in the 1969 Fiat 128... and revolutionized FWD cars. It was also reconfigured and used in the X1/9. VW like the idea enough that they dismantled a 128 to use as a reference for the Golf/Rabbit.

    1968 saw the company officially folded into Fiat, when it received a stylized A emblem to replace the 1959 serpent and bull. After merging with Lancia in 1985, the A was turned upside down, for the Lancia emblem design. (That's why Lancia's logo looks like a rotary symbol.)
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    Wasn’t there a movie that car was featured in. They were driving, back and forth though a city square. Someone had a horse head on. A pink panther movie maybe.

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    I don't think I have seen that movie. I'd love to look it up, if you recall the name.

    In the same trade, he had a Cisitalia 850 emblem, from the early 60's. This is a unique little car. Karl Abarth, Piero Dusio and Dante Giacosa teamed up to form the company. Dusio left Italy for Argentina when one of their Grand Prix cars drove the company to close (some say 1 step ahead of the creditors). In Argentina he continued Cisitalia, building Fiat & Abarth based cars.

    After I received the emblem, I realized it is most likely a reproduction casting from the original. (I thought it might simply be a bad paint job; should have asked for a photo of the back.) Since there are no economic ties with Argentina these days, Argentine emblems are hard to come by, so I take what I can find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by map View Post
    Thanks. On the bronze emblem, I'll have to keep my eyes open for that one; thought they were tarnished gold when I first saw yours. 1966-74 124 Spider and 1966-72 Sports Coupe, but I'm not sure if all those had bronze or if some bore the silver emblems. Does yours have any markings on the back? (I've seen several that were reproductions, like the one in this photo.) I have one that was originally bronze or gold, but all the "gold" turned black, common for those that saw a lot of light. I bought it because it's an interesting look.

    From what I remember, I thought the silver ones had tarnished or somehow worn off and the emblems looked gold or brass. On the cars I had the wreaths were worn and dark. I think I tried to polish one but didn't spend too much time on it and it didn't come back to a chrome or brass color. Just stayed dark.

    On my Sport Coupe the emblem is new ( well sort of, the car was restored ~2006 and the emblem replaced) and I can't see behind it. I'm guessing it is a repro. I remember those big sport coupes the center parts where it says Fiat would eventually all fade away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by map View Post
    New to the collection is Autobianchi SPA. A bicycle builder until the founder passed, Giuseppe Bianchi joined with Pirelli and Fiat in 1955 and built their first car in 1957, using this logo on the '57 and '58.



    In 1964 Autobianchi installed Fiat's new drivetrain in their attractive Primula to test its practicality. That drivetrains was eventually in the 1969 Fiat 128... and revolutionized FWD cars. It was also reconfigured and used in the X1/9. VW like the idea enough that they dismantled a 128 to use as a reference for the Golf/Rabbit.

    1968 saw the company officially folded into Fiat, when it received a stylized A emblem to replace the 1959 serpent and bull. After merging with Lancia in 1985, the A was turned upside down, for the Lancia emblem design. (That's why Lancia's logo looks like a rotary symbol.)

    Cool find! I've always liked Autobianchi cars. The Yugo was similar to the Autobianchi A112 (and Fiat 127) and the Abarth version inspired me to mod my own Yugo. I bought some Abarth A112 emblems for my car which I never put on the outside, but had them on the inside. They are somewhere...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiat500USA View Post
    Cool find! I've always liked Autobianchi cars. The Yugo was similar to the Autobianchi A112 (and Fiat 127) and the Abarth version inspired me to mod my own Yugo. I bought some Abarth A112 emblems for my car which I never put on the outside, but had them on the inside. They are somewhere...
    Yes, the Zastava/Yugo cars are similar to the Autobianchi A112. Supposedly the design was a shortened Fiat 127/128 developed in Italy. Zasatava has a long history and after 1953 built several Fiats, though they built Ford trucks and Jeeps in previous years.

    The early Yugos got a bad rep, some of which was not warranted. In the earlier models there were quality control issues in the plant. Some parts (plastics) were of poor quality. I understand it used the powertrain from the Fiat 127, "obsolete" before the Yugo 45 entered the US. Most of the complaints came about because of poor maintenance. At 30% less than the cost of a Chevette, it was a "disposable" car. Fails that destroyed the cars were spelled out in the owner's manual... such as changing timing belts at 40K and running 87 octane fuel. It's a shame, as parts were readily available and easy to swap out. I drove one in the 80's and it was superior to the Chevette I owned, but what wasn't?

    Interesting for their history, Zastava emblems aren't the prettiest.
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