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    Took off the CFP adjustable sway bar end links and put the OEM back on, who would have thought that now it's quiet. Definitely notice a difference in ride as the front now has a floating feeling due to the sway bar being under load now. Ordered the GruvenParts adjustable sway bar end links today from Ngen and the CFP lower frame support, FYI the lower frame support is on sale right now for $125. Finally scheduled my alignment for Sept 14th at Texas Track Works, I've heard about these guys a lot but have never been. Talked to them about the 500 and he said only 2 other 500 have come through, mine being the 3rd and only 500e. I printed out the alignment specs as they are different for the 500e than the 500s

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    D7E24E6C-C97D-4E44-BB84-4661B0E26CB8_1_201_a.jpg1A7993E1-17F1-416E-AEF0-EDD4CABC4116_1_201_a.jpgF8C49E41-98B7-43F0-8DFC-8EBA68F517D3.jpgJust installed CFP lower brace, omg this piece is a beast!!! Why did Fiat put such a weak bar under the car, mine wasn't perfectly straight so there definitely was some flexing going on. Went for a quick test drive and it definitely feels stiffer, won't really know impact till I get the GruvenParts sway bar end links on this weekend and unload front sway bar. Thinking the Gato engineering chassis braces are next, then maybe the DNA rear sway bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luma3d View Post
    Just got the rear Konis just in case rumors are true...I'll order springs later. First I want to get the top and bottom bracing kit for the front.
    Which top brace are you going with? Your going to love the Koni's!!!!!!

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    My next purchase will be the chasis braces from 500Madness. They sell top and bottoms together as a kit.

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    I did the SpeedLab hood strut kit, so nice not to mess with anything when opening the hood. So those bolts are being used for the hood strut kit, I'm looking for a shock strut tower bar that goes through the tunnel between the strut towers where the wind shield wipers are. The lower bar is killer from, really look at how they mount because some of those under bar reduce you carriage clearence. The CFP is the best lower chassis brace that I have found that checks all the boxes. Till I find something up top that makes sense I'm going to get the Gato side braces next.

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    The GruvenParts sway bar end links finally arrived to day, going to install them in a couple of hours and rotate tires. Wow these are made right, IMM. The center section is solid piece of stainless thats been milled down with the threaded section on the end, the THK ball joints screw on to the center section, this is a way better design because the jam nut locks the ball joint not the center section. On previous sway bar end link the center section is where the jam nut locked, better on ball joint side. Beautiful pieces, can't wait to see the difference once the sway bar is unloaded with the CFP lower brace installed.
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    500 Madness Chasis brace kit...Top and bottom. I'll get this before lowering since I still need to get my front Konis first. Got my rears today. I wish I could buy everything at once, but no money.

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    GruvenParts adjustable sway bar links installed this weekend, huge difference. These are in the "Koni" beautiful range of parts, love it when parts work as they should. Driving impressions now are incredible, everything seems to be working very well. Lower CFP brace seems to really tie the car together, feels more planted on take off, tighter in corners and braking has a better feel. Sway bar unloaded definitely helped in this also as the car has no bounce, does have the race car firmness though when road is really uneven. Smooth on the highway. Rundown of suspension parts installed at this point:

    CFP top hats
    CFP lower front frame brace
    Koni yellow front firm setting 1" cut off OEM bump stop
    Koni yellow rear firm setting
    GruvenParts adjustable sway bar links
    Energy Suspension rear bump stop raised 1/4" roughly with washers
    15x6.5 Monza rims 15 offset
    Falken Ziex ZE960 tires 195/50/15

    Went to Texas Track Works today to see where my alignment is, whoa I definitely was surprised. Trent and his crew were very helpful and knowledgeable about suspension set-ups, even though the Fiat 500 only really does toe adjustment. Drivers side rear was off a good bit which really throughs the thrust angle out a lot more than I thought. My front toe was set correct but with the rear off the thrust angle makes my car track slightly off. Talking with TTW they asked me a lot of questions about my intent with the car. I told them that I planned to keep this car for 3 years I have 2 more years to go and have fun driving this car. With that said we discussed options for rear camber plates, this is an expense job about $400. I have been rotating my tires every 1000 miles with no uneven wear even though my trust angle is out, going to drive it through the winter and check my tire wear in the spring. I'll do the rear camber shims then if need be.

    All good for sure, modifying cars is an adventure and I love the way this car has turned out for a daily driver so far.
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    Man haven't updated this since Sep 2020, haven't really done anything lately except ENJOY the hell out of my 500e that kicks total butt now!!!! I'm not normally satisfied easily as I always see a need to improve on a suspension setup. My Fiat 500e is perfect the way it's set-up, love it!!!! The alignment # above are the only downside, but not really to me as I just Rotate more often. Also I can't even imagine what a 100-200 wear tire would be like driving on with the way this car handles, I consistently out drive my Falken Ziex ZE960 tread wear 640 but love the A/S traction. Never driven on a race tire so don't know what I'm missing, but I do dream.

    Installing a Curt receiver hitch next weekend and wiring for trailer. Installing to carry my bicycles and pull a trailer, other benefit is I'm thinking it will make the rear a little stiffer.

    I have a super cool small Thule trailer from 2005 or 2006, think it's 3'x4'. Very rare and hard to find today. Will work perfect with the 500e. Picture is my 2015 Nissan Note S, manual, slammed on BC
    coil-overs, rims are 15x9.5 with a super stretched tire and oh yeah super retro hand crank windows!!!!! Trailer has the same rim/tire set up. Q
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    Easiest trailer hitch ever installed is on a 500e, done a few in my life and the Fiat 500e takes 1st place for easiest. Hardest was a 1998 Buick Park Avenue, for me at least. Only took about 30 minutes to install. Haven't driven it yet, still on jack stand. Interested to see if it feels tighter/stiffer in rear due to bracing effect. Wiring will be done next week, interesting that the wiring harness needs a hot wire to battery????? All of them use this way of getting power to the back for trailering, first I've ever seen done like this. Oh well hitch took 30 minutes, wiring will take couple hours. Q
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