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    carpet and underlayment foam repair in footwell area

    There's a small hole in the carpet+foam underlayment in the footwell area. I don't even rest my foot there, so I'm not quite sure how this has happened.
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    It's only recently and thanks to some great folks on this forum that I'm thinking this can be fixed. I've researched the hell out of possible ways to go about this (youtube, reading up on different kinds of foams, etc.), and I now have a couple of questions.

    1. Initially (ie. before finding various online resources on automotive foams and uses, etc.) I thought of using spray foam to fill the hole and carve into the right shape. But... is this wise? That's pretty spongy foam there, so open-cell, right? And the insulation spray foam is closed-cell? I also thought cutting down a big sponge into shape. Any other suggestions?

    2. All the *good* repairs to carpets involve heat applied to the repair patch with one of those jeans repair patch underneath. Wouldn't that hurt/melt the foam? I guess I can always test this on some makeshift repair and see if the sponge underneath disintegrates. Is there some sort of heat shield layer I could put between the foam and the new patch? [edited to add: I could cut up and glue a small piece of ironing board cover to the sponge/foam underlayment, then patch over that...]

    3. I've noticed further up the footwell, up by the pedals, there's a little flap that doesn't appear to be doing anything other than screaming "hey look at me, I'm the exact size you need for this repair!!!" Does this little flap have a function? I sort of lifted it up for the purposes of the picture.

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    The carpet is decorative, protection for the floor panel, and a bit of sound deadening. It's difficult to tell where the damage is at. It doesn't look like wear damage, but I guess the reason isn't important. It looks like something heavy and sharp struck it, or maybe animal damage, though I don't see any scratches to the paint underneath.

    Naturally, the best repair would be to locate a junked 500 and snag a replacement carpet. It should be cheap and most (all?) 500's could be the donor car. That will require pulling the seat and some panels to install the "new" carpet.

    From the photo, it's hard to tell; is there fabric missing, or is the "missing" bit folded back? Carpet is fairly easy to repair. In home installation they butt roll edges together and use carpet tape to hold the 2 panels together, for a nearly invisible seam that lasts. If all the fabric is there, you could pull back the carpet, remove the insulation from its back, and tape the tear back into place. Another method would be to stitch the canvas backing around the edges.

    Probably a neater patch will be to install a patch. As you noticed there are bits of the carpet hidden from view, like the flap, or bits under the seats. For that repair, place a cutting surface under the carpet face. Use a box knife to carefully cut the backing along the weave lines. For the patch, I know guys who can free hand the cut, but I mark it with a pencil (using the freshly cut hole as a guide) then cut the patch on a hard surface to get as close to perfect a fit as I can. Then the patch is installed and carpet tape holds it in place. I didn't have carpet tape for one car I repaired. I used contact cement and a bit of heavy cloth in place of the tape. (My uncle and cousin did home repairs on carpet when customers would stain or burn holes in their carpets. They worked carpet install for decades.)

    Yours should match fairly close. The couple car carpets I repaired were heavily worn/faded, so it never matched, but looked better than a hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by map View Post

    From the photo, it's hard to tell; is there fabric missing
    Yes, fabric is missing and the foam (??) underlayment is missing as well. This is located just to the right of my right leg/ankle, as the carpet molds up against the center console.

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    ... but I mark it with a pencil (using the freshly cut hole as a guide) then cut the patch on a hard surface to get as close to perfect a fit as I can. Then the patch is installed and carpet tape holds it in place.
    That's my plan, more or less. I'm just wondering about the spongy material underneath. It's about, oh... 1/2"thick. Spray foam? That seems too rigid. Sponge? Maybe my best bet? It needs something underneath.

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    I didn't have carpet tape for one car I repaired. I used contact cement and a bit of heavy cloth in place of the tape.
    Oh good idea!

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    The couple car carpets I repaired were heavily worn/faded, so it never matched, but looked better than a hole.
    Definitely! When I open the driver's side -- which, as it turns out, is the one I tend to open -- it's the first thing I see!

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    If you dont rest your foot there. It sure looks like you been. That area, is dirty, and I see scuff marks. On the panel above it. It could be Mice maybe? Just glue it back. Take a black, gray sharpie to touch up edges.

    Option #2 you can cut sample a small area
    Under the rear seat cushion. To splice in a patch. The fix will never look prefect.

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    I know the fix will never look perfect, but it will look better than a hole.

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    I was thinking it looked a bit like dog nails. Maybe you spilled a drop of ketchup? Once you close the carpet, the backing probably won't matter. If concerned, I suppose you could trim a bit of Stryofoam to fit. I usually have some of that kicking around from packages I get... always manage to toss it out just before I need a bit.

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    It may not be his heel that did the damage. Looks like the side of his shoe was rubbing about where your pinky toe sits inside the shoe. I would wonder if his shoes have scuff marks there. That would also lead to the carpet pulling down as his shoe slides down it pressing the gas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VoxZef View Post
    It may not be his heel
    her heel

    Quote Originally Posted by VoxZef View Post
    that did the damage. Looks like the side of his shoe was rubbing about where your pinky toe sits inside the shoe. I would wonder if his shoes have scuff marks there. That would also lead to the carpet pulling down as his shoe slides down it pressing the gas.
    So I was checking today as I took the dog to the forest nearby -- a daily activity, hence, the dried leaves and twigs in pic. I was going to take a picture but didn't have a phone handy. When I'm driving, my heel doesn't even come close to that area, and even if I were to lean my accelerator foot against that center rise, I would need to bring my heel down about 6" and then twist my ankle to rest it against that center console. Also: I never use cruise control.

    Although I agree with VoxZef's idea of the carpet pulling down as her shoe presses on accelerator pedal. I think what happened is a combo of:

    - my left foot digging in while reaching for something in the back seat in some sort of Twister way
    - and driving. I noticed that the carpet is glued to that underlayment, and I wonder if, just by putting forward pressure on the carpet in the footwell, it tugs at the sides.
    - ketchup + dog is a possibility, but he's pretty good about going in the back.

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    If concerned, I suppose you could trim a bit of Stryofoam to fit. I usually have some of that kicking around from packages I get... always manage to toss it out just before I need a bit.
    Map, yes, I thought the same and found some, which I'm going to use for the armrest repair as per Doug's video on the subject and for this.

    No one has nixed or confirmed my spray foam idea. Any thoughts there?
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    Buy some Weathertech rubber floor mats the mats lip will cover over the worn area. Further protecting the area from more wear.

    https://www.weathertech.com/fiat/201...er-digitalfit/

    Brand new OEM carpet are only 250 bucks. Just replace them. Your car will smell brand new again.

    https://parts.moparonlineparts.com/o...w0LWdhcw%3D%3D

    The cheapest way. Cut out the existing area. Cut out a patch. Apply 3M permanent spray glue to the back of the patch. Stick it in place.
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    Here’s another option.... Find a salvage 500. Lots of them out there. Buy the interior carpet from them. So you won’t have to replace the whole interior carpeting. Just cut out the driver side quarter. Replace it only. A couple hours work. Any patch work, is going to look worst, and slightly then the worn hole that’s there already......


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