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    Oil Leak

    I've sprung a large oil leak on the passenger side underneath the oil filter housing. My local garage has diagnosed it as a leaky oil return line from the turbocharger. They don't have much experience with Fiats, so they've suggested that I take it to the nearest dealer, which I'm scheduled to do tomorrow.

    I would expect that the pressure in the return line would be low, so I'm surprised that the problem is with the return line, rather than the supply line. Anyway, is this something that could be caused by the use of a turbo blanket? I.e. higher temperatures causing the line or the gaskets to fail? Should I insulate the lines to prevent this in the future? Is it a big project to replace the return line?

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    My small oil leak, is from the valve cover gasket. On that side same side. Check yours out, on your car.

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    I got the quote from the dealership. They claim it is the oil filter housing adapter and are quoting over $2000 for the job. About $1400 for labor. $400 for parts. $100 for oil change . $250 for AC recovery and recharge because they need to remove an AC line in order to do the repair. This seems more than a little excessive. I was expecting replacing hoses and maybe some gaskets, but I don't see how the filter housing adapter itself can leak. Anybody have any suggestions or experience with this sort of thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaimeRoberto View Post
    I got the quote from the dealership. They claim it is the oil filter housing adapter and are quoting over $2000 for the job. About $1400 for labor. $400 for parts. $100 for oil change . $250 for AC recovery and recharge because they need to remove an AC line in order to do the repair. This seems more than a little excessive. I was expecting replacing hoses and maybe some gaskets, but I don't see how the filter housing adapter itself can leak. Anybody have any suggestions or experience with this sort of thing?
    Wow that crazy expensive.... you can buy a lot of cat litter for the price of that fix. To soak up the oil dripping. You might want to try out a good independent shop out there.

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    I get the sense they don't really know where the leak is coming from so they are trying to change everything. I got a list of the parts they want to replace. It breaks down into two main groups: 1) gaskets for the oil supply and return for the turbo, and 2) the oil filter adapter.

    My local garage said the problem is with #1, which makes sense, because the leak is most noticeable when the turbo has been in use. Most of the cost is associated with #2.

    I'm probably going to have them replace the gaskets and see if that solves the problem. If the problem is still there, I'll take it to a different dealership or an independent garage that works on Abarths, if I can find one.

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    Has anyone tried using dye? They add an ounce of dye to the oil, then use yellow sunglasses and a UV flashlight then run the car. It's often the easiest way to see the origin of a leak. There are different dyes for various fluids, so search "Oil UV dye". Prices vary, but some kits are available for $20. I'd prefer to clean up the area first, but it's not really necessary.

    If it was mine, I might try changing the oil filter to insure the filter was properly seated and the housing was tight but not over torqued, and not damaged/cross-threaded. I might also test oil pressure. Years ago I worked on one, stuck open, that would run 95 PSI as I increased engine speed. I'm thinking, since oil is always flowing thru those tubes, it could be excessive pressure.

    http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/showt...ousing-problem

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    I used dye first. From above nothing was visible, so it's not the oil filter. From below there was so much oil that I couldn't determine where it was coming from, which is why I took it to a local garage and then to Fiat when the garage said they wouldn't be able to work on it.

    The dealer also used die and say that they saw it coming from the filter adapter. I've called around to some shops and they all said it's a big project to replace. The problem is that there is one part that is not sold separately, so you need to buy the whole adapter. 500 Madness recommended pulling that part and trying to source it at a fastener store, which I might try.

    I'm basically going through the 7 stages of grief right now, and moving on to beer.

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    I think I've been able to identify the part that can't be purchased separately based on drawings from the European Fiats. It's p/n 944.180. Unfortunately, every website I found is sold out, except for Amazon Germany, and they don't have any sellers who will ship to the US. Well, some of the Russian sites might have it available too, but that might end up costing me more that the cost of repair.

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    You don't say what year/model, but would it be part #14?
    https://www.tascaparts.com/auto-part...ine-parts-scat

    ...oops.... you said turbo so maybe this part?
    https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts...w0LWdhcw%3D%3D
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    It could be the oil cooler that's leaking since its part of the housing. I recently changed the gasket on mine because it was leaking. Gasket was $13. If you're mechanically inclined it's an easy job, just time consuming. I removed the bumper cover, bumper, and radiator to gain access to do the job. I didn't disconnect the A/C, just moved it out of way. You will need to drain the coolant to remove the radiator and change the gasket. All in said it was under $100 in parts and about 4hrs of time, as I took my time and also adjusted my wastegate since i was in there. Good Luck, Cheers

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