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    I found this on You tube....
    His Abarthhad issues with shudder too. Bad CV shafts


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    Quote Originally Posted by smark View Post
    I found this on You tube....
    His Abarthhad issues with shudder too. Bad CV shafts

    yes, but first, in a video before this video, he (and his friend) replaced all 3 engine mounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewflyer View Post
    I'm curious... you simply don't watch videos, or you do watch videos but not this one, or you're too busy right now to watch a video, or it's mildly offensive for me to presume that you would want to watch part of a video?

    I ask because I live my life inside a "55 year old, old-guy bubble", which I've found sometimes makes me socially unacceptable (especially in on-line interactions).
    Sorry, I didn't mean to be offensive. I'm hanging out in a 56 year old, old guy bubble myself, and basically won't watch any videos unless I'm desperate. When you watch a video you must watch it in the order and at the pace it was created (after an ad usually), unless you want to flip back and forth as my son does. The whole process takes forever. I don't read that way, rather I skip all the blah blah blah until I get to the thing I'm interested in, then I read that slowly until I understand it and then skip all the rest. I also have not watched more than a couple of hours of TV in many years, so yeah I'm eccentric.

    I'm interested in the topic of this thread just in case I should ever encounter it, and when I saw you had an update I wondered what you had found - but it was just a video and I wasn't willing to devote any time to that. I appreciate you filling me in!
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    Yeah, videos are a desperation act for me, too. A nice write-up with a couple pictures is worth its weight in gold. Seeking back and forth in the videos, pacing, camera work, etc. You end up with a 14 minute video with the torque numbers (for instance) scattered throughout when you are probably just looking for help in one or two steps you can find instantly with a skim or a Ctrl+f + keyword.

    Videos are just popular because propping up a camera and talking stream of consciousness requires very little effort compared to a real write-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewflyer View Post
    yes, but first, in a video before this video, he (and his friend) replaced all 3 engine mounts.
    I saw that clip too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalfPint View Post
    Sorry, I didn't mean to be offensive. I'm hanging out in a 56 year old, old guy bubble myself, and basically won't watch any videos unless I'm desperate.
    No problem, I don't mind putting it into words.

    PA? When I was young I lived in Palmer Township (between Nazareth and Easton)

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    Quote Originally Posted by smark View Post
    I saw that clip too.
    Yes, it was his experience (as it played out in the 2 videos you and I are referencing) that made me wonder if the shudder might be a combination of old/torn engine mounts and a right-side drive shaft that is worn and sloppy.

    They seemed to think that the car was slightly better after the engine mounts were replaced. But they were really happy after the drive shaft replacement. So I'm going to do the same, in the same order, with a thorough test-drive evaluation in between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samwichse View Post
    Yeah, videos are a desperation act for me, too. A nice write-up with a couple pictures is worth its weight in gold. Seeking back and forth in the videos, pacing, camera work, etc. You end up with a 14 minute video with the torque numbers (for instance) scattered throughout when you are probably just looking for help in one or two steps you can find instantly with a skim or a Ctrl+f + keyword.

    Videos are just popular because propping up a camera and talking stream of consciousness requires very little effort compared to a real write-up.
    That's good to know. When I write the How To guides on Fiat500USA.com I think in the back of my mind if I should be doing a video.
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    Typically a vibration when accelerating is CV Joint. Of course, at 50K there is wear and tear on everything, so it makes sense that replacing items like mounts that absorb vibration will help dampen feeling vibrations.

    A quick thought is to inspect the rubber boots on the CV Joints to see if there is any leakage of grease. Obviously a torn boot is a red flag we all know about, but leakage at the clamp is a less obvious failure.

    Worn engine mounts can put strains on CV Joints, too, especially on inner joints. In some cases, it doesn't take much for a worn motor mount to cause an inner CV Joint apart. That is another red flag for a technician to look if they come across an axle shaft that pulled apart while driving. So you can see some wear on mounts can lead to issues.

    It can be a combination of things that can conspire to cause these vibrations. Many times one worn thing has a domino effect. Let us know how you make out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ewflyer View Post
    My 2012 Abarth has developed a case of "Abarth Shudder" which is a subtle-but-unmistakable shaking feeling that is most noticeable when you spend time at around 3,000 RPM (like cruising in traffic on the highway).

    The shudder has a mild, smooth feeling. It isn't sharp or rough as if there loose parts or parts knocking together, and it seems to me that it's most obvious when I'm cruising along with the revs at around 3,000 and I begin giving the engine more throttle. There are plenty of times (different speeds and engine RPMs) where I can't feel the shudder at all (or I'm just not able to notice it).

    The question is: What the hell causes Abarth Shudder?
    Is your car an automatic or manual transmission?

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