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    He had a 2013 Arbeth race car.

    Thats a whole nother model from our Abarths with different specs.
    It took 4 and a half quarts of oil plus another 16ounces of some additive to change the oil. And you run it until it doesnt register on the dipstick.
    Ours only takes 4 quarts of oil.
    It is also the most difficult car in the world to change the oil he said. I guess you cant loosen any parts so you can get to the filter.
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    Oil Change from Beyond

    Quote Originally Posted by lammie200 View Post
    I feel a little bad for this guy.

    Niche channel doing the same repairs on different model cars.
    I now want to do oil changes with an extractor.
    He didnt really let on how much of a sweat he broke out.
    Gotta give it to him and how raw he left the video without too many edits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by map View Post
    OK, I guess I'm not running oil long enough, or low enough. (He was down over 1 1/2 quarts.) Last time I changed oil that black was when I ran Arco Graphite in my first new hatch.
    Want one GOLD star or two. Most of my service was done at the now defunct Fields Fiat in Orlando where you can stand within 10 feet of your car being serviced; even the very FIRST oil change which I did around 1,000 miles looked black as it drained. Also, NONE of my 500's, including the Abarth used more than 1/4 of an inch on the dipstick between changes.

    I'll give you a nit to pick...I only change my oil once a year as I drive less than 5,000 miles a year, actually less than that. My Avatar is 3 years 3 months old and has less than 4,000 miles on it. Why? 1) I'm retired. 2) I have TWO cars. 3) I'm single.
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    Meh, different choices. Myself, I expect some contamination, about the color of bourbon, and can accept Coke color after hard use. When it's reached the color of printer's ink, it's too long for me. Along with soot, there is water, metal, dirt, carbon, fuel dilation, and acids in the mix. I prefer to stay on the safe side. A dozen oil changes are cheaper than an engine.

    Of course, I also prefer to not run my engine on 2 quarts of oil, like the car in the video.

    From Cummins' website: "Soot causes oil thickening and increases engine wear, and sludge causes filter plugging. Inorganic contaminant is made up of dirt, gasket material, core sand and wear metal. In addition to organic contamination, it (soot) is also directly responsible for wear in a diesel engine." That's much the same line as Parker Hannifin's filtration division (a former employer)... so could be hype to sell better filters.

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    This is when, I change my oil.....

    NOTE: Under no circumstances should oil change intervals exceed 8,000 miles (13 000 km) or six months, whichever occurs first.


    Use API Certified SAE 5W-40 Full Synthetic Engine Oil, meeting the re- quirements of Chrysler Material Standard MS-10896. Refer to your engine oil filler cap for correct SAE grade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smark View Post
    This is when, I change my oil.....

    NOTE: Under no circumstances should oil change intervals exceed 8,000 miles (13 000 km) or six months, whichever occurs first.


    Use API Certified SAE 5W-40 Full Synthetic Engine Oil, meeting the re- quirements of Chrysler Material Standard MS-10896. Refer to your engine oil filler cap for correct SAE grade.
    That's because you have a 2012. The newer models say 10,000 miles, one year, or when the change light comes on, whichever is soonest.

    I realize this is an Abarth message group, but isn't your FIAT a Sport? If so doesn't your owners manual just specify dino oil 5w-30 weight? I use 5w-30 Pennzoil Ultra Platinum synthetic in my 2016 Sport even though it doesn't require it.
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    UConnect Touch Screen with AM/FM/Sirius Radio

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    Though it may look black when drained (even mine does when pouring quickly) when you take a thinner sample I'm betting it's nowhere near that video.

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    Look at the threads in that pix, where the oil is its thinnest... zero light penetration. I'm betting your oil is never that nasty, even if it looked dark when draining.

    I think smark's book is more reasonable than the current, and my dealer agrees. I change at 5K miles, which coincides with 6 months, but I'm conservative. The manual for new 500s has an addendum. Severe Duty, change the oil at 4000 miles. They rate that as dirt road operation, but short distance driving is as severe IMO. If my driving was mostly 10+ mile trips, I might go with the on board meter, but 1 or 2 miles are severe in summer, worse in winter. My thinking... I might own the car for 12 years. An extra $300 in oil changes won't kill me, but waiting for the light might.

    But, like you I am retired, with 2 vehicles, and single. My 25 yo PU gets 3K a year and gets annual oil changes. It's fun to drive but, honestly, with a 500 in the drive??? It takes a conscience effort to drive the truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaDawg View Post
    That's because you have a 2012. The newer models say 10,000 miles, one year, or when the change light comes on, whichever is soonest.

    I realize this is an Abarth message group, but isn't your FIAT a Sport? If so doesn't your owners manual just specify dino oil 5w-30 weight? I use 5w-30 Pennzoil Ultra Platinum synthetic in my 2016 Sport even though it doesn't require it.
    lol. slightly busted! also its nice to get the correct info....rather than someone assuming everythings the same across all models.

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    I wish they had not done that as I would like to use the oil change reminder. Now it is kind of useless since I don't plan to let it go past 5kmi - which leaves me making notes somewhere and hoping I remember to look at them.
    Completely stock 2016 500 Abarth, Rhino & Nero

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaDawg View Post
    That's because you have a 2012. The newer models say 10,000 miles, one year, or when the change light comes on, whichever is soonest.

    I realize this is an Abarth message group, but isn't your FIAT a Sport? If so doesn't your owners manual just specify dino oil 5w-30 weight? I use 5w-30 Pennzoil Ultra Platinum synthetic in my 2016 Sport even though it doesn't require it.
    Ive been using synthetic oil in my 500 the last eight years. The FCA service department, recommended it, back then. I use Synthetic oil and all our cars. I usually change the oil in my cars around 7k Miles. Turbo or not engine.

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