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    Fiat 500 GLP?

    What is a Fiat 500 GLP?

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    In some countries in Europe, you can buy a Fiat 500 1.2L that runs on GLP. GLP is (Gas Licuado del Petrleo) in Spanish or GPL in Italian (Sas di Petrolio Liquefatto) or in English: LPG (Liquefied Petroleum Gas). FCA is confirmed among leaders for natural gas vehicles in Europe with approximately 760,000 natural gas vehicles produced since 1997 (2018 data). Price per liter that is 50% cheaper than that of 95 octane gasoline. A vehicle running on LPG consumes about 10% more than gasoline, and its engine develops approximately 5% less power.

    The other engines available are gas powered the 1.2L 69HP 4-cylinder or .9L TwinAir 85hp 2-cylinder.
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    If I understand it correctly, in the UK the switch to LPG makes sense. Price is half (as you said) and a company that coverts claims about the equivalent of 80 MPG (price wise)... compared to 45 on petrol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiat500USA View Post
    In some countries in Europe, you can buy a Fiat 500 1.2L that runs on GLP. GLP is (Gas Licuado del Petrleo) in Spanish or GPL in Italian (Sas di Petrolio Liquefatto) or in English: LPG (Liquefied Petroleum Gas). FCA is confirmed among leaders for natural gas vehicles in Europe with approximately 760,000 natural gas vehicles produced since 1997 (2018 data). Price per liter that is 50% cheaper than that of 95 octane gasoline. A vehicle running on LPG consumes about 10% more than gasoline, and its engine develops approximately 5% less power.

    The other engines available are gas powered the 1.2L 69HP 4-cylinder or .9L TwinAir 85hp 2-cylinder.
    Is that the same engine as the 1.2 eco? With the 1.2 GPL existing, I never really understood why they made the 1.0 TwinAir. For the super low Co2 emissions??? I mean, 88 g/km is pretty impressive.

    I've also heard of some FIAT'S with PZEV (I don't really understand how you could have a partial zero emission vehicle.), apparently it's just a 1.2 with start/stop. Also, I think that (s/s) is standard for the 1.2 for 2020, which is great, because I would totally want to pair that with the mandatory Dualogic and have complete mediocre hill starting ability. Plus with the emissions changes to engine, and you have a great car for trying to quickly cross traffic in the city... NOT!

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    Yeah, they are confusing. The 1.0 TwinAir gets 44.4 MPG in the 500 shell. At 30 MPG, it costs $2500 to travel 12K miles at their fuel price.

    LPG is supposed to be a bit cleaner because it burns cooler. Mostly it's done to save money. I drove one, off and on, for a year and it's a real pain if you don't have your own filling point. It can take 20 minutes to get a tank of fuel at stations, when you can find one... and it had to be filled twice as often.

    By 2025 all US cars are supposed to be PZEV. Despite improvements, cars give off gas when sitting or filling, and especially after start-up. PZEV captures fuel fumes and has a different cat-conv setup. Subaru claims 80% less pollution from the tail pipe (not including CO2 as a pollutant, of course). Popular Mechanics has a good article on it. Good new is, it improves driveability.
    https://www.popularmechanics.com/car.../what-is-pzev/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco Reviews... View Post
    Is that the same engine as the 1.2 eco? With the 1.2 GPL existing, I never really understood why they made the 1.0 TwinAir. For the super low Co2 emissions??? I mean, 88 g/km is pretty impressive.

    I've also heard of some FIAT'S with PZEV (I don't really understand how you could have a partial zero emission vehicle.), apparently it's just a 1.2 with start/stop. Also, I think that (s/s) is standard for the 1.2 for 2020, which is great, because I would totally want to pair that with the mandatory Dualogic and have complete mediocre hill starting ability. Plus with the emissions changes to engine, and you have a great car for trying to quickly cross traffic in the city... NOT!
    That is why they didn't offer those engines and transmissions for the US market. They were not suitable for our driving conditions and expectations. However, in other countries, they have different considerations and those powertrains work quite well. What works for one country's market does not necessarily work for another.
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