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    '19 L or '20 Soul S ?????

    Dang. A friend(not really a car buff) is torn between the very nice, newly updated KIA Soul S and the '19 500L Lounge(a few still in Austin @ $19000). KIA has done a good job updating the Soul, IMO; even with the lower HP rating(except in the Turbo). Of course, I'm partial to the L as we have had two. She's giving up the moonroof and leather of the L for roughly the same price as the S model Soul(safety features abound; but no leather or moonroof). Brand new update vs slightly "older" , Soul is one model year newer, of course. KIA dealers are throwing around numbers like crazy; but it looks like the two prices will be right at the $19K mark before taxes/fees.
    Having 5 KIA dealers in town doesn't hurt(just the one FIAT studio), not to mention the 5/60 warranty on the KIA.
    Dang. I don't want to push her too much toward the L, even though I'm happy with mine. Dang.
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    I'm not a fan of Kia, but in a choice between the 2, the Soul wins hands down. It looks like she can do a better price, though.

    If she wants the sunroof, a search online might be the choice. They come in the more expensive GT-Line... even a turbo is available. The GT is their top line and I'm seeing those locally for $19 to $21K. (There's a sunroof model for $20,840.) That puts them in range of the base 2019 500L Pop models.

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    We’ve once owned a 500L. Replaced it with a Kia Soul. Bought a second Soul. Loved both them. A very reliable vehicle. Just waiting for Kia to sell the 2020 Soul EV here. Service is great. Lots of cargo space. Good fuel economy too.



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    Go for the Soul Coach. The number of dealers and that 100,000 mile warranty alone justify the choice.

    One negative I found though, and totally personal choice/anecdotal, are the Soul's front seats don't have a lot of cushion. Long trips are hard on the arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by map View Post
    I'm not a fan of Kia, but in a choice between the 2, the Soul wins hands down. It looks like she can do a better price, though.

    If she wants the sunroof, a search online might be the choice. They come in the more expensive GT-Line... even a turbo is available. The GT is their top line and I'm seeing those locally for $19 to $21K. (There's a sunroof model for $20,840.) That puts them in range of the base 2019 500L Pop models.

    Thanks to all for the replies. UNfortunately, she doesn't care about the pano roof(it IS a bear here in central Texas to mitigate the heat gain) OR the leather. Those might have pushed her toward the L(actually, the local studio has a '19L Trekking in her preferred dark gray for $17,999); but she cares not for the extras. She does like the nanny features of the 'safety' gizmos on the Soul S(she's never owned a vehicle with any of the 'safety' gizmos like BLIS or lane wandering avoidance or rear cross-traffic alert). Alas, no base model L in the picture...saving another couple of grand might sway her.

    I do wish FIAT could boost the L hp to a couple hundred like the Soul Turbo; although the reviews of the Soul performance have been lukewarm at best. I think another forty horses in the L would be a blast!!!

    Kelly, those side bolsters in the Soul front seats are a bit sharp and cheap feeling. I guess I'm spoiled after nine Volvos and our two FIATS.

    Her desire for a lighter colored interior might slow her down from making the purchase this weekend. Looks like KIA is about 90% dark interiors vs the two-tone gray; making it tougher to find her chosen model in stock.(The L Trekking has black interior, so that was another mark against it)
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    Let us know what you ended up bringing home Coach!

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    Here is my question ask ex car salemen. If she is going to be driving it, what does she like.
    My take non biased
    Driving dynamics
    I would go with the 500L its more fun but with the weight it take a little out. You could easy put another 20-40 hp with not much effort.
    Styling
    Tough choice it depend what you prefer more.
    I would personal go with the 500L
    I feel that you can put lots of stuff in the 500L.
    I believe you can put 68 cu. ft. Which is a lot for its size.
    People cant get over the van like styling .
    Plus you should be able to get better discounts on the Fiat. With the money you saved could/ should put it into a mopar extended warranty. What my dad did for me if buy a extra warranty max care. He got 7years 100k . Its worth it. Well what ever you choose make sure you get protection with warranty as long as you plan on owning the car.
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    Owning both vehicles. The Soul hands down has more cargo space, because of its boxy shape. My daughter and wife today loaded up both our Souls, with merchandise today. Headed for a trade show, in St. Louis, this morning.

    If you go the 500X way. There are very few of them on the dealers lots. Slim color choices, and trim.You probably can get $7,000 $8,000 off
    on one. Dealers are going to be scares too.

    Good Luck on whatever you choose.

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    I was surprised how cheap the 2020's are. The discounts are really high for a car that's been out a month. The base XL is cheaper than the 500 Pop (under $14K) at some dealers and the S around $16K. Those listed prices seem too cheap. Of course, I'd have to drive a hundred miles. Our local dealer sells for 20% higher... save $4K for a 3 hour drive?

    I know what you mean about the gray... pretty nice in either make. I especially would love to have that smart cruise control; set your following distance and it does the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smark View Post
    Owning both vehicles. The Soul hands down has more cargo space, because of its boxy shape. My daughter and wife today loaded up both our Souls, with merchandise today. Headed for a trade show, in St. Louis, this morning.

    If you go the 500X way. There are very few of them on the dealers lots. Slim color choices, and trim.You probably can get $7,000 $8,000 off
    on one. Dealers are going to be scares too.

    Good Luck on whatever you choose.
    Thanks for your response; but not considering the 500X but the L. I think the L has more usable cargo capacity than the Soul.

    Quote Originally Posted by map View Post
    I was surprised how cheap the 2020's are. The discounts are really high for a car that's been out a month. The base XL is cheaper than the 500 Pop (under $14K) at some dealers and the S around $16K. Those listed prices seem too cheap. Of course, I'd have to drive a hundred miles. Our local dealer sells for 20% higher... save $4K for a 3 hour drive?

    I know what you mean about the gray... pretty nice in either make. I especially would love to have that smart cruise control; set your following distance and it does the rest.
    We've found about $3K off msrp on the Soul S...nothing like $16K, however. She would likely pounce on that number for an S.

    BTW, I've had adaptive cruise in a couple of vehicles...only found it useful on really long trips...like 500 miles at a clip.
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