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    Expensive and profitable cars can better absorb the increased cost. A brand like Fiat that offers relatively low priced cars are the ones taking the hit. There isn't much profit in them to begin with, but add in the EV, Hybrid, etc. and it's even tougher.

    The Europeans are looking at the demise of the small city car segment.

    Automakers across Europe are axing their smallest cars or preparing to do so.

    Opel will drop its Karl and Adam minicars, while fellow PSA Group brands Peugeot and Citroen said their 108 and C1 minicars are unlikely to survive.

    A source at Ford confirmed that it will stop exporting the Indian-built Ka+ small car to Europe.

    Volkswagen executives have said privately that the automaker is preparing to drop combustion-engine versions of the Up minicar, which would almost certainly mean the fuel-powered Seat Mii and Skoda Citigo would also disappear.

    Daimler, meanwhile, has begun the process of shifting production and development of its Smart brand to China, where the small cars will be built exclusively starting in 2022 as part of a joint venture with Zhejiang Geely Holding. That decision raises a question mark over Renault's Twingo minicar, which was developed alongside the current Smart model range.

    It won't just be minicars affected, Warburton said. VW Group could be forced to axe the Polo small car as well as the related Audi A1, Skoda Fabia and Seat Ibiza, he said. "
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    This is why FCA and PSA needed to hook up. It is survival mode going on right now. All these smaller car companies are going to need a partner to fund all these changes.

    Management isn't the only ones that hate EVs. They aren't practical for a large, if not the majority, of buyers. In essence, these companies are being forced to spend billions on cars that have limited sales potential. I think we could all come up with lists of things FCA could better spend their money on.
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    I would like to know how this can benefit, what fiat cars I am able to buy here? But I am thinking its going to take a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smark View Post
    To succeed in the market here. The vehicles would need to be crossovers, SUVs, and smaller pickup trucks. FCA already got the successful Jeep and Ram brands. A wide range of EVs would be needed in the future too. From the merger.

    Renault, offers in Europe, the Twingo city car, Clio hatchback, Captur SUV, Espace V crossover, Tailman sedan, and Megan sedan. Acquiring FCA, is Renaults door to the NA market place. Here again.
    I don't think bring these brands into the NAFTA region is part of the plan. They won't sell, and the market is already crowded with too many brands. Mergers only signal consolidation and shakeout. They're a sign of shrinkage, because growth can't be achieved organically in mature market.
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    Merge with Suzuki so we can get a small SUV like the Jimny.

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    Fiat and Peugeot Sign Merger Agreement



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    Fiat Chrysler Automobiles and Peugeot S.A. have formally agreed to merge. The two companies will combine in a 50/50 partnership headquartered in Holland and will become the 4th largest car manufacturer by volume, ahead of GM, Hyundai, Ford, and Honda. Based on 2018 numbers, the combined company had revenues of $189 billion and annual sales of ...

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    And yet, there was Fiat's webpage ad on the same page.


    On the sales charts, I wonder why there are 2 bars for Renault.

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    Looks like the FIAT brand won't exist in North America anymore.
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    Is that speculation or a fact?
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    I don't know if it is fact, but if you look at deck slide 27 (the last one) it shows a chart for North America. FIAT is not listed on that chart. FIAT is listed on both the Europe and Latin America charts, however. More than one person put some thought into those charts and the fact that FIAT isn't listed on the North America chart makes me think that they are dropping the brand from the US and Canada. I hope not, but it may be the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lammie200 View Post
    I don't know if it is fact, but if you look at deck slide 27 (the last one) it shows a chart for North America. FIAT is not listed on that chart. FIAT is listed on both the Europe and Latin America charts, however. More than one person put some thought into those charts and the fact that FIAT isn't listed on the North America chart makes me think that they are dropping the brand from the US and Canada. I hope not, but it may be the case.

    Interesting. Could be. The last time that happened they explained they concentrate on highlighting the mainstream brands and not the little niche brand that doesn't contribute much to the bottom line here. We can only hope...
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