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    Quote Originally Posted by map View Post
    It seems like a fair price ($5888). I'd have it checked by a mechanic and take it home, if you like the car. Personally, I like that top better than the hard top or 500C.
    Leno's auctioned off at $185K.

    With that intake and exhaust you could be getting around 85 to 90 HP to the wheels... a bit better than stock.
    yeah but all day long if you buy a special edition like a launch edition and you get #1-5 you will get much more money than a ACV or KBB. Plus Jay leno is known for keeping his Fiats in top shape. Also he is a fiat lover if you didnt like. His favorite cars brands are American like (FCA, GM) and Italian ones like Ferrari, alfa, lambo. Also he love classics like 40s-20 cars.

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    I’m surprised that a car that makes 101bhp makes can barely reach 90whp. I didn’t that the difference is that much.

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    Looks like a red power wire coming off the battery and going up behind the wipers, so they must have added something else to the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco Reviews... View Post
    I’m surprised that a car that makes 101bhp makes can barely reach 90whp. I didn’t that the difference is that much.
    Our 3 banger 71 hp smart car was able to do that easy. Governed to 91mpg.

    My friend Phil has this red one. He’s kept the factory plastic on the seats, for 9 years.

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    I was a bit surprised when I had my first dyno, many years ago. We'd see our stock 300HP engines putting down closer to 200. In stock form the NA Fiat makes around 80, with the 130HP model showing ~100WHP. As you probably know, BHP is tested on a bench under ideal conditions. Some mfgrs have been known to "cheat" on the test. There are normal losses through the drive train but other losses are because we can't duplicate the way BHP is determined.

    Some of the tricks are: Test at sea level. Incoming air might be "conditioned" (cooled, etc) for maximum density. Optimize fuel. Some fuels have a higher BTU than others. These fuels aren't what you'll find at the pump. Run with no loads/remove parasitic loads. The dyno is hooked directly to the crank, sometimes eliminating the flywheel. The exhaust system is direct pipes, w/o cat-conv or mufflers. Some companies disconnect necessary components, such as drive belts. Belts put a drag on the system, as do the items they drive. Some tests even eliminated the water pump, maintaining the cooling system at its ideal water temperature. Air filters are eliminated. The engine was also "perfectly" built. Hand assembled, each component was hand selected. Though supposedly using assembly line parts, some teams would "tweak" parts, so the engine performed better than off-the-line models.

    Those are little things but had higher HP/torque than the engine would display in real life. I don't know how Fiat did their testing, but that was some of the tricks used by the Big-3 back in the days of the HP races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smark View Post
    Our 3 banger 71 hp smart car was able to do that easy. Governed to 91mpg.

    My friend Phil has this red one. He’s kept the factory plastic on the seats, for 9 years.

    I see the plastic on the back seats. That's a smart idea, to protect the backseats when you're never going to use them.

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