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    San Jose CA Fiat Mechanic

    Hey all!

    Iím sad to report that cylinder #4 on my abarth has zero compression. It was misfiring, and I pulled off and had it towed to a shop in Santa Cruz.

    They said that it may be a bent valve, so Iím wanting to take it to a mechanic who has worked on Fiats before. I know multiair can be confusing and hard to work with for some.

    Just looking for a mechanic closer to home and thatís reasonably priced.

    They said it would be about 11hrs of work to pull the head and do the repairs. I wanted to get a second opinion.

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    Sorry to hear that. Any codes? Check the basics first. Did you check the oil? Dirty or low oil can cause issues. Any mods? What happened before the car conked out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiat500USA View Post
    Sorry to hear that. Any codes? Check the basics first. Did you check the oil? Dirty or low oil can cause issues. Any mods? What happened before the car conked out?
    There was a CEL for P1CEA.

    It was still running fine for a long time with that CEL. I hadnít had the time to fix it or troubleshoot it, and as I was going to work Friday morning I was decelling on 17, then it started misfiring a lot. I turned the car off and back on again, same thing with smoke coming out the back. So I pulled over and got it towed.

    Cyl 4 did have a leak into the spark plug chamber (I assumed from the gasket).

    Only mods Iíve got are dv+ and 595 tune on E+D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiat500USA View Post
    Sorry to hear that. Any codes? Check the basics first. Did you check the oil? Dirty or low oil can cause issues. Any mods? What happened before the car conked out?
    The first guy called me and said he did a leak down and everything looked good (as far as the bottom end). But when I called to speak to someone else, they said it was a bent valve. So idk.. I didnít want them to continue until I got more valid information. Iíll head to the shop to talk to them and get to see it for myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newsoltsc View Post
    The first guy called me and said he did a leak down and everything looked good (as far as the bottom end). But when I called to speak to someone else, they said it was a bent valve. So idk.. I didn’t want them to continue until I got more valid information. I’ll head to the shop to talk to them and get to see it for myself.
    What about the oil questions? That is really hard to believe a valve got bent. Did they pull the head off? A bent valve is strange if a belt didn't break or the engine wasn't downshifted and overspeed. The key thing is oil for a MultiAir engine. If there was an oil issue, that can affect the MultiAir operation. Maybe it kept a valve open? Normally if MultiAir is deactivated, the intake valves follow the camshaft.
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    I didnít get a chance to check the oil since I was on a hill. I know there was oil, but thatís enough to make the car misfire so much?

    Iím going to the shop today to get a better look.

    They havenít pulled the head yet, I told them to hold off because, a bent valve did sound suspicious if the first guy said the leak down came back fine, and the second guy said itís a bent valve.

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    Did they check your spark plugs and coil packs?

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    Yeah, plugs and packs are fine.

    So I just visited the shop, they pulled the multi-air actuator and did the leak down. Cylinder 4 still has a bad reading, along with 2/4 having low psi. If I recall he said 60/60/174/0 for leak down.

    I told them to just tear the head off so that we can get more details about whats going on inside the motor.

    I'll keep everyone updated!

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    I burned an exhaust valve in #1.

    Just replace the engine, cost is about the same for a used engine installed than rebuilding the head. You don't need a FIAT specialist to put a new engine in, but it would be preferable.

    There is a great shop in Mt. View but expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stubtail View Post
    I burned an exhaust valve in #1.

    Just replace the engine, cost is about the same for a used engine installed than rebuilding the head. You don't need a FIAT specialist to put a new engine in, but it would be preferable.

    There is a great shop in Mt. View but expensive.
    I told them to pull the head to see what the damage looks like. If it turns out I need a complete motor I can order one. Otherwise, I'll probably order a complete head if it's just the burned valve (machine work will cost as much as a new head online)

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