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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedolph View Post
    "Silent chain".....

    Hmmm......

    Is the head still cast iron?

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    Our current N/A 1.4 liter 500 engines have an ALUMINUM head and a CAST IRON block.
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    The guys at Auburn Hills and Turin put a lot of work into the new 1.3 MultiAir. The legacy engines are going away across the board as I understand it in favor of new FCA world engines which will include a new straight 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustbucket View Post

    A 2018 2.4L 500X AWD is rated 21 city, 29 highway, 24 combined. The 2019 is 24 city (it uses start/stop technology), 30 highway, 26 combined ... a nice improvement in my book.
    I'm not a fan of 'start/stop'. For maybe a 2% improvement in fuel economy, one sacrifices maintenance and reliability. I got so tired of it in my wife's Jaguar, that I completely disabled it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyfromVA View Post
    I'm not a fan of 'start/stop'. For maybe a 2% improvement in fuel economy, one sacrifices maintenance and reliability. I got so tired of it in my wife's Jaguar, that I completely disabled it.
    That's the nice part... it's a setting that can be turned off. It's a significant improvement if most of your driving is in town. It would be even better if it had a slightly bigger battery. It doesn't seem to make a significant change in maintenance for most cars... but I wonder about any car with direct injection. I would be concerned about fuel in the engine oil. That's been a problem in a couple car lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by map View Post
    That's the nice part... it's a setting that can be turned off. It's a significant improvement if most of your driving is in town. It would be even better if it had a slightly bigger battery. It doesn't seem to make a significant change in maintenance for most cars... but I wonder about any car with direct injection. I would be concerned about fuel in the engine oil. That's been a problem in a couple car lines.
    I could turn it off on my wife's car too. Until disabling it, one had to remember to press the button each time you started the car.

    The starter for a stop/start vehicle is the same as a regular engine. That means, depending on traffic, you cycle the starter numerous more times than just starting and driving. That means the starter wears out much faster, the ring gear it engages with suffers much more wear. Oh, and your oil pressure drops to zero at each stop light. Then, when your engine starts and comes up to moving RPM, there is a second or two lag before oil pressure returns. The old saying goes; over time starting your engine causes the most wear on bearing surfaces. Over a much shorter period, start/stop takes that wear to whole new levels.

    Manufacturers developed start/stop in a software effort to gain another 2% toward achieving the CARB standards. They could care less if your starter and engine wear out sooner, because they're banking on selling you a new starter, or a replacement car that much sooner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaDawg View Post
    Our current N/A 1.4 liter 500 engines have an ALUMINUM head and a CAST IRON block.
    Thanks, that is what I meant to say. So do the new engines have a case iron block that can be bored out, etc.?

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    I'm also not a fan of the start-n-stop. The first time I drove one, it was a Giulia and I was waiting to pull out into fast traffic. The car turned off just as I nailed the gas and there's the delay starting that surprised the crap out of me for a second.

    I usually turn it off on our Stelvio. It can be annoying and I don't like sitting there with the AC and everything else on draining the battery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedolph View Post
    Thanks, that is what I meant to say. So do the new engines have a case iron block that can be bored out, etc.?

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    It depends on how much material is between the bores and water or oil passages. Also many modern blocks are actually made from composite or alloy iron materials. Graphite/iron being a popular material for modern blocks. Cast iron liners are pressed into the alloy iron block, so boring for additional displacement may not be an option.

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    I wonder how the stop and start, feels like, in highway grid lock traffic. Lot a extra wear and tear, on the starter, and battery.

    I only experienced that feature once. Test drove a 2011 hybrid Honda CRZ, manual transmission. Before I bought the 500. You let out the clutch gave the car some gas. The engine started. Really strange feeling.

    Ask the folks, who bought the first Vegas, with all aluminum heads, and blocks. No cast iron piston sleeves. Chevrolet was replacing engines every 6 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyfromVA View Post
    I could turn it off on my wife's car too. Until disabling it, one had to remember to press the button each time you started the car. The starter for a stop/start vehicle is the same as a regular engine.
    I don't know what Fiat will do, but eTorque on the PU uses a starter/generator that attaches to the crank via a belt. The engine shuts off when deaccelerating. When you press on the gas, eTorque quickly spins the engine up, then provides assistance until the engine reaches its power range. If 12V battery voltage drops significantly (due to parasitic power loads) the engine will restart, usually after 10 minutes. The engine feels smoother, the generator is used for "engine" braking, and it blips the engine speed to make shifting smoother. The 48V pack uses a DC/DC converter to keep the 12V battery smoothly charged.

    In the PU, Chrysler claims 10 to 12% MPG improvement. I can easily see 10-15% in city, but...
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