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    That's funny - it is what it is and good for you for throwing yourself out there. You will get better and better with manual as time goes on and like Saponetta said, figure out what your grab point is on your clutch and go from there. Don't forget to rev match when downshifting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by majora96 View Post
    Yeah I'm not very good at driving it lol. I apologize because this is completely off topic but doesn't it take way too long to move off without any gas? I would think you need a little bit so you dont stall. I've managed to do it without gas before but it took a while.

    And by the way I AM that same guy from the other thread lol. I take no offense, I appreciate all criticism and advice.
    I dont mean take.off with no gas. But for me at least, unless on a grade, gas isnt even neccessary really to fully engage clutch. Like in a parking lot or whatever I do this all the time. But yea, it is slightly slower. But we are talking a second if that. Just play with the ckutch pedal until you just instinctively know what is gonna do. That best advice I can give. Dont even think about throttle pedal till you have that down. Driving barefoot or with like driving mocs without a complete sole really does help if your having trouble feeling what car is doing. Best tof luck. I really think you need to find someone familiar with a manual amd get their help. Because it shouldnt take this long to become proficient. It should take a few hours. Someone must not have taught you right. Or maybe your not understanding how the ckutch works. I'm happy to explain and help. But you really just need an hour with a local perosn who drives a manual. I'm sure youd be totally fine then.
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    cowl intake, custom fmic and bypass valve, vogtlands, rear vette bilstiens, long 3 inch downpipe to stock rear section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abarth500_John View Post
    Don't forget to rev match when downshifting.

    That is probably the last thing he needs to worry about right now.

    Just push down your brake hard to engage hill hold at every stop and remove any fear or anxiety about rolling. And concentrate on the ckutch pedal. If your causing the car to shudder, your not really hurting it. Just let it out till it shudders and practice applying just enough throttle to end the shuddering and get it moving. If you're gentle and precise, the car shouldnt even shutter and require no throttle on a flat surface.

    Alternatively when I'm distracted, I blip throttle about 200rpm above idle and release clutch till it grabs as it drops. You basically do this simultaneously. Its ine smooth motion. Like Olympic. Relay runners passing a baton. They never really are both holding the baton at once. Or a horse galloping. There is a split second where no hooves are on the ground. That's the grab point. It shouldnt be ckurch or throttle on a smooth street start. Just a perfect balamce.of revs and ckutch engagement. You want to catch the revs as they are falling. Not while your applying throttle. This is the easiest start for a novice. But of course your quick on the pedal again ready to add 200 or 300 rpm to stabilise revs incase the full engagment is dropping rpm to much and causing shuddering or stalling.
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    Spec 2+ clutch
    Working on new divided turbo setup
    Homebrew fmic w/ corsa forza hoses
    Stock Downpipe with cat and 2.25discharge
    Coils
    Homemade cowl intake
    ECB yellows/stop tech fluid
    Koni/vogtland
    Braces and strut mounts
    Corsa forza vento
    E30 blend

    2013 abarth tork tuned
    cowl intake, custom fmic and bypass valve, vogtlands, rear vette bilstiens, long 3 inch downpipe to stock rear section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by majora96 View Post
    I ran all the EC files except Phase 3 and can definitely say I'm enjoying Tork more. Mostly because of how part throttle feels. It feels absolutely perfect. It's hard to explain in words but it feels more linear. Like every bit you push on the gas it will actually go faster whereas stock and EC it felt kinda dead in certain areas. Aside from throttle, the pull feels similar, although Tork feels like it comes on quicker. I haven't had a lot of time with it but that's been my observation. Are you considering purchasing one or the other?

    I dotn know how aggressively you drove your car, but trust me there is more power there. Flash your car back to ec stage 2 and do a 30 to 80mph pull and log boost and throttle. then do the same with tork. Post the logs.

    Lambda would be nice to see to. To show the difference in how tork is able to handle component protection main tables amd supporting tables.
    2013 abarth
    Spec 2+ clutch
    Working on new divided turbo setup
    Homebrew fmic w/ corsa forza hoses
    Stock Downpipe with cat and 2.25discharge
    Coils
    Homemade cowl intake
    ECB yellows/stop tech fluid
    Koni/vogtland
    Braces and strut mounts
    Corsa forza vento
    E30 blend

    2013 abarth tork tuned
    cowl intake, custom fmic and bypass valve, vogtlands, rear vette bilstiens, long 3 inch downpipe to stock rear section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by majora96 View Post
    I ran all the EC files except Phase 3 and can definitely say I'm enjoying Tork more. Mostly because of how part throttle feels. It feels absolutely perfect. It's hard to explain in words but it feels more linear. Like every bit you push on the gas it will actually go faster whereas stock and EC it felt kinda dead in certain areas. Aside from throttle, the pull feels similar, although Tork feels like it comes on quicker. I haven't had a lot of time with it but that's been my observation. Are you considering purchasing one or the other?
    I was set on EC, but my opinion is easily swayed. Looks like Tork is in my future. Thank you (and everyone else here) for providing your experiences.

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    That's great. You'll be glad you chose that file.

    Check out tork facebook. He is constantly posting new content and dynos. Recently had a an ec tuned car on the dyno amd made 30more hp at peak and the whole power curve just improved.
    15 to 20% gains on cars making 150 to 250 hp are huge, night and day improvements.
    2013 abarth
    Spec 2+ clutch
    Working on new divided turbo setup
    Homebrew fmic w/ corsa forza hoses
    Stock Downpipe with cat and 2.25discharge
    Coils
    Homemade cowl intake
    ECB yellows/stop tech fluid
    Koni/vogtland
    Braces and strut mounts
    Corsa forza vento
    E30 blend

    2013 abarth tork tuned
    cowl intake, custom fmic and bypass valve, vogtlands, rear vette bilstiens, long 3 inch downpipe to stock rear section.

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