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    Long Term Reliability/Maintenance with EC Phase 2 Tunes or any tunes

    I currently have a 2018 Abarth 500 with just a bit over 7500 miles and I am about to pull the trigger on getting mods to fully support the EC Phase 2 tune. Given that this car is a daily driver for me, are there any negative effects in the long term as far as running this tune or any tune for that matter on this vehicle? Furthermore, what added maintenance will I need to perform in order to maintain the reliability of the car?

    I know that this is an open ended question so any assistance/advice you can provide as far as maintenance is concerned would be of great help. My goal is to keep the car for (10) years and hopefully, give the vehicle to my son once he turns 16 provided that he is responsible enough to handle it.

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    for the most part you just need to check all components your supposed to be checking more frequently keep in mind
    more power = more stress on all parts

    things to watch would be the turbo/bearing along with its oil level(should be checking anyway)
    brakes (ya know cause its faster than stock)
    sparkplugs and coils( once again more boom more stress)
    half shaft boots
    cat life( depending on tune)

    I'm sure I missed some stuff,
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    I would say if you want to keep it for 10 years then dialing up the power is probably not the right way to go, unless you are prepared to spend the money on major surgery at some point (new engine, new transmission). Adding power in any way is going to increase the stress on components, shorten life expectancy and increase the risk of breakage.

    That said if you are going in eyes wide open then sonic's list is pretty good. The only thing I would add is become fanatical about oil changes. The multi-air lives and dies by the quality and consistency of the oil.

    The only additional maintenance that I would suggest is change the PCV and clean or replace the AOS at 30,000 miles (or 4 years or so), and replace the multi-air filter/screen at 50,000 miles (or 5 or 6 years).

    If you are beating hard on the car you should shorten other maintenance tasks accordingly, e.g. think about the timing belt at 100k instead of 150k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonicsdaman View Post
    for the most part you just need to check all components your supposed to be checking more frequently keep in mind
    more power = more stress on all parts

    things to watch would be the turbo/bearing along with its oil level(should be checking anyway)
    brakes (ya know cause its faster than stock)
    sparkplugs and coils( once again more boom more stress)
    half shaft boots
    cat life( depending on tune)

    I'm sure I missed some stuff,
    Thanks for taking the time to respond and based on your feedback, I think it would be safe to do the factory maintenance with the mileage cut in half - i.e change the oil every 5K, spark plugs every 15K, etc. Are there any mods to get that are recommended other than what is specified for P2? I think the list I have here is a start:

    1. Turbosmart wastegate
    2. EC FMIC
    3. NGK spark plugs
    4. Forge BOV (atmospheric)
    5. PTP Turbo blanket
    6. Alfa Romeo 4C coils
    7. EC Tuning system

    I have a set of KW coilovers on order and should arrive sometime in July. Was thinking of getting a BBK but not sure if Wilwoods or Brembos would be the best option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texanbrit View Post
    I would say if you want to keep it for 10 years then dialing up the power is probably not the right way to go, unless you are prepared to spend the money on major surgery at some point (new engine, new transmission). Adding power in any way is going to increase the stress on components, shorten life expectancy and increase the risk of breakage.

    That said if you are going in eyes wide open then sonic's list is pretty good. The only thing I would add is become fanatical about oil changes. The multi-air lives and dies by the quality and consistency of the oil.

    The only additional maintenance that I would suggest is change the PCV and clean or replace the AOS at 30,000 miles (or 4 years or so), and replace the multi-air filter/screen at 50,000 miles (or 5 or 6 years).

    If you are beating hard on the car you should shorten other maintenance tasks accordingly, e.g. think about the timing belt at 100k instead of 150k.

    Thanks Texan much appreciated and looks like I missed your post prior to my response to Sonic. Maybe 10 years is a bit of a reach if it is tuned but I am looking at having some fun now and perhaps if I maintain it right, I can make it last. I don't really drive the car that hard now and put about 36 miles on it a day for a daily commute. Thanks again for your insight.

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