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  • Partsguyct87
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2019
    • 20

    Increase the mpg?

    Forgive me if this is already discussed somewhere, I couldn't find anything. I'm looking to see what everyone has done to improve the mpg further on your 500l. I know everyone will say pedal control as an obvious solution but I'm looking deeper than that, what modifications can be made to help pump up those numbers. I've been averaging about 28mpg per tank with a mix of highway and City driving in my 2014 manual so far. So let's see what y'all are getting.
  • Fiat500USA
    Amministratore
    • Feb 2011
    • 15804

    #2
    Originally posted by Partsguyct87
    Forgive me if this is already discussed somewhere, I couldn't find anything. I'm looking to see what everyone has done to improve the mpg further on your 500l. I know everyone will say pedal control as an obvious solution but I'm looking deeper than that, what modifications can be made to help pump up those numbers. I've been averaging about 28mpg per tank with a mix of highway and City driving in my 2014 manual so far. So let's see what y'all are getting.

    Driving technique is the number one way to improve your gas mileage. Cars are so well tuned today it is hard to improve upon what the engineers have already done.

    A few things
    • Proper oil viscosity and keep the oil fresh. Dirty oil can affect the MultiAir, besides obviously wearing stuff out.
    • Tires to proper inflation. I generally up the pressure a few pounds front and rear for sharper handling. That will also increase fuel economy.
    • Short shifting. Don't wind the gears out. Shifting around 2100 rpm as long as you aren't lugging the engine will increase gas mileage.
    • Try to drive in the highest gear the car can pull without lugging.
    • Use the instantaneous mpg readout to keep track of your driving. Try to keep it above the average mpg reading as long as you can will increase your fuel economy.
    • Don't let your car idle excessively.
    • Use the cruise control as much as you can. Obviously be attentive, but regular use of the cruise control will boost your mileage because you are driving at a steady speed. Constantly accelerating and slowing down will kill your mileage.


    I use these techniques and have a lifetime average of 34+ mpg on my Abarth and I have a mix of rural/urban commute. Let us know how you make out.
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    • Ando
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      • Nov 2016
      • 2342

      #3
      If you are doing rush hour commuting look as far ahead as possible and react to the overall flow of traffic, not just the two cars in front of you. Let them scream up on that wall of brake lights, you'll catch up with them when traffic starts moving again and you will use a lot less fuel than if you were participating in the stop start zombie drive.

      Same thing with traffic signals, if you drive the same route every day memorize how the signals change and try to figure out what speed to drive to hopefully catch all the greens. Any time you can conserve momentum you are saving fuel, conversely every time you have to use your brakes you will likely need to use a proportional amount of throttle to return to cruising speed.

      Originally posted by Fiat500USA
      • Use the cruise control as much as you can. Obviously be attentive, but regular use of the cruise control will boost your mileage because you are driving at a steady speed. Constantly accelerating and slowing down will kill your mileage.
      As a counterpoint, the cruise control doesn't care about MPG, it only cares about achieving your setpoint. This is particularly noticeable in hilly areas. If traffic and laws allow I like to feed in throttle downhill to let the car take advantage of gravity and coast up the uphill, ideally returning to my target speed by the top of the following hill.

      Hypermiling is a super interesting corner of car enthusiasm. It was a lot more fun in my TDI than my Abarth, but tinkering with various techniques forms good driving habits overall.

      We've only been talking about driver mods so far. Easy things to do to get more MPGs is to drop weight where possible. Do you have roadside assistance? Leave the spare at home. Not driving anyone to lunch? Remove the rear seats. Not going curling today? Take the stones out of your trunk. You get the idea. Most of this is free. Removing your floormats isn't going to net you a 1mpg increase, but every bit helps.

      Shop for some low rolling resistance tires. These generally equate to lower ultimate traction but if you're not carving canyons in your Elle you probably won't notice the difference.
      Last edited by Ando; 05-15-2019, 02:42 PM.

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      • venom
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2019
        • 178

        #4
        This should be titled the “Tight Wad” thread....All good tips though. I like to challenge myself to see just how good mpg I can get. It’s like a game.
        I’m not a Mopar guy...I’m a FCA guy...I’m so happy Fiat took Chrysler under its wing! With that said I have a good collection of FCA cars.

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        2005 Chrysler 300 SRT w/426 Hemi
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        ****Looking to add another Abarth...Need a track day car I can strip down and go to VIR regularly****

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        • Ando
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          • Nov 2016
          • 2342

          #5
          Originally posted by venom
          This should be titled the “Tight Wad” thread....All good tips though. I like to challenge myself to see just how good mpg I can get. It’s like a game.
          Touché... I think OP was aiming more for "what can I do to innately improve MPG without becoming "that guy"?" Low rolling resistance tires and actively monitoring tire pressures are probably the best path, no driver mods required.

          Hypermilers are crazy, but it's fun to try once in a while. Even so, doing crazy hypermiling things every once in a while raises your awareness of when you are wasting fuel. I drive like a one armed crack monkey most of the time but that doesn't mean I scream up to red lights at full highway speeds. It's all a balancing act.

          Just for fun check out the Fuelly page for the 2014 500L. Looks like your 28mpg is average. From there you can sort the Elles by fuel type or transmission or single out cars with exceptionally high mpg numbers and check for mods in their description.
          Last edited by Ando; 05-16-2019, 12:19 PM.

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          • 2014-500L
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2018
            • 26

            #6
            I recently added the GFB upgraded diverter valve and a K&N drop in filter, and I am seeing improved MPG. I would vary from 23/24mpg with the occasional 26 mpg tank at my best. Since the install I have had 3 fill ups coming in at 28.5, 27.6, and 26.9 mpgs, and that's with a few high rev pulls that really hurt the average. My '14 is a 6 speed manual.

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            • Partsguyct87
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2019
              • 20

              #7
              I've already been driving like I have Ms Daisy in the back, I read mostly looking to see what other ways we can improve MPG, if I'm pretty much at the peak then I might end up going the other way and improving power to get a little fun out of this car on my way back and forth to work.

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              • texanbrit
                Lifetime Member
                • Nov 2014
                • 782

                #8
                You can use one of the Go-Pedal type products in economy mode. That softens your accelerator input.
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                • Ando
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                  • Nov 2016
                  • 2342

                  #9
                  If you are even a little bit on the fence I'd opt for fun mods. You are much more likely to enjoy them, and you might even keep your efficiency. (None of my favorite mods burn more fuel)

                  Texanbrit's pedal mapper suggestion is good. Depending on your mood you can be ECO-Warrior or Track-Warrior.

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                  • Fiat500USA
                    Amministratore
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 15804

                    #10
                    Originally posted by venom
                    This should be titled the “Tight Wad” thread....All good tips though. I like to challenge myself to see just how good mpg I can get. It’s like a game.
                    That's how I think of it and how I entertain myself on my work commute. Makes the drive interesting and it balances out the times I light my tires up or do some other antisocial behaviors. The bonus is it keeps me flying under the radar when I cruise by the police.
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                    • Saponetta
                      Lifetime Member
                      Lifetime Member
                      • Sep 2018
                      • 1382

                      #11
                      .ake sure alignment is always on spec. Clean air filter, plugs in good shape. Dont drive around with 400lbs of crap in the car at all times like my mother.

                      Go on the dart forums. Every time a.google search has led.me there, they are all claiming to get 50mpg outta 1.4t lol. Whatever.
                      2013 abarth
                      Spec 2+ clutch
                      Working on new divided turbo setup
                      Homebrew fmic w/ corsa forza hoses
                      Stock Downpipe with cat and 2.25discharge
                      Coils
                      Homemade cowl intake
                      ECB yellows/stop tech fluid
                      Koni/vogtland
                      Braces and strut mounts
                      Corsa forza vento
                      E30 blend

                      2013 abarth tork tuned
                      cowl intake, custom fmic and bypass valve, vogtlands, rear vette bilstiens, long 3 inch downpipe to stock rear section.

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                      • rustbucket
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 953

                        #12
                        I'll throw in one more thing- fuel. On my previous '13 500 Sport I switched over to 91 octane ethanol- free fuel when it became available in my neck of the woods and saw a 1 to 2 mpg increase. Ethanol contains fewer BTU's per gallon than gasoline. That said you won't be saving any money as it costs about 50 cents per gallon more than 87 octane E10. Living in CT you probably don't have access to ethanol free fuel but it's still worth trying different brands and grades of fuel. Sometimes you might see an improvement from a different brand even though it is (supposedly) the same grade (octane).
                        Last edited by rustbucket; 07-08-2019, 12:15 AM.
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                        • Saponetta
                          Lifetime Member
                          Lifetime Member
                          • Sep 2018
                          • 1382

                          #13
                          Definatly on the fuel. If you have a scanner, see which fuel give you the best peak timing advance. That will be your mpg champ. I've found my abarth doesnt even run well stock on some 93 octane. And with increased boost pressure, the bp and Phillip's 66 fuel is flat out dangerous in my area. Mobil 93 octane seems to be so far above other fuels in knock resistance, I'd imagine their lower grades are superior to their published rating as well. Plus they supposedly have best additive/detergents.
                          2013 abarth
                          Spec 2+ clutch
                          Working on new divided turbo setup
                          Homebrew fmic w/ corsa forza hoses
                          Stock Downpipe with cat and 2.25discharge
                          Coils
                          Homemade cowl intake
                          ECB yellows/stop tech fluid
                          Koni/vogtland
                          Braces and strut mounts
                          Corsa forza vento
                          E30 blend

                          2013 abarth tork tuned
                          cowl intake, custom fmic and bypass valve, vogtlands, rear vette bilstiens, long 3 inch downpipe to stock rear section.

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                          • samwichse
                            • Sep 2018
                            • 208

                            #14

                            Ecomodder has a great "100 tips" list for this.

                            They also have this list of modifications of various difficulty.


                            The roof rack removal is near the top of both lists for a reason. They also have a forum for more specific questions :-).

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                            • mlkfiat
                              Member
                              • Jun 2016
                              • 71

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Saponetta
                              Dont drive around with 400lbs of crap in the car at all times like my mother.
                              I shouldn't, but I can't resist.

                              That isn't a very nice way to talk about your mother, even if she does weigh 400 lbs.
                              And why is she always in your car when you drive?

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