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    I had a set of vogtland coilovers on an audi s4 I drove for like 8 years back when I had a decent commute to work. Probably put 100k miles on them. They rode nicer than most and I never had a single issue. Which was suorising. Most coilovers under about $2500 are litterally garbage and to get a year or two out of them without a rebuild is a miracle. I believe the vogtlands are actually.made igermany too. Vs. Bangladesh or china or the holy city of kambulac on the steppes of Mongolia like most cheaper coilovers that set themselves above the generic chinese crap with a name and a usa office.

    And dont let all the adjustment fool you. For 90% of users including myself, a high quality damper with no or limited adjustability is better than 32 ways of adjustment and or a cheap damper. Unless your sensitive enough and have the track time to adjust the suspension, all that adjustment is essentially useless. Your better off with a fixed performance valving from a reputable company. Most people with coilovers just end up with a really poor handling, bouncy car that needs its dampers rebuilt every other year. It's like an ecu tune if you dint know what your doing, your better off with a one size fits all fron a professional.
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    2013 abarth
    Spec 2+ clutch
    Working on new divided turbo setup
    Homebrew fmic w/ corsa forza hoses
    Stock Downpipe with cat and 2.25discharge
    Coils
    Homemade cowl intake
    ECB yellows/stop tech fluid
    Koni/vogtland
    Braces and strut mounts
    Corsa forza vento
    E30 blend

    2013 abarth tork tuned
    cowl intake, custom fmic and bypass valve, vogtlands, rear vette bilstiens, long 3 inch downpipe to stock rear section.

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    another thing i really like about BC coilovers for our car is the height adjustment.

    you dont adjust the spring height, you adjust the whole assembly so that way you dont mess up the preload
    I have my BC's dampening adjustment set to match the weight distribution on the car.
    A lot of people dont know how to set this, most people just put this to max stiff.... LOL

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    The point of preload adjustment on a properly designed and sprung coilover is to corner balance the car.

    Im.jist not a huge coilover fan. Having driven lots of different cars at driving days, I find factory performance cars suspensions, or factory valved/calibrated suspension usually feel a lot better, handle the surface better, than coilovers. Excessive lowering is a major culprit too. Plenty of shock stroke is a good thing on a well designed suspension that locates the wheels properly and has a proper alignment. Also, the stiffer/more.rogid the chassis, the less harsh suspension needs to be. Jump in a modern Ferrari or especially McLaren, amd the ride is flat out plush. Makes my abarth or my 930 feel like penalty boxes. The abarth has a serious disadvantage in the rear. You can make that torsion bar rest handle phenomenally. But it will never handle the road great, and stiffer, is probably better in its case. Ohh and most coilovers are about 1 level above a lego set in quality.
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    2013 abarth
    Spec 2+ clutch
    Working on new divided turbo setup
    Homebrew fmic w/ corsa forza hoses
    Stock Downpipe with cat and 2.25discharge
    Coils
    Homemade cowl intake
    ECB yellows/stop tech fluid
    Koni/vogtland
    Braces and strut mounts
    Corsa forza vento
    E30 blend

    2013 abarth tork tuned
    cowl intake, custom fmic and bypass valve, vogtlands, rear vette bilstiens, long 3 inch downpipe to stock rear section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saponetta View Post
    The point of preload adjustment on a properly designed and sprung coilover is to corner balance the car.

    Im.jist not a huge coilover fan. Having driven lots of different cars at driving days, I find factory performance cars suspensions, or factory valved/calibrated suspension usually feel a lot better, handle the surface better, than coilovers. Excessive lowering is a major culprit too. Plenty of shock stroke is a good thing on a well designed suspension that locates the wheels properly and has a proper alignment. Also, the stiffer/more.rogid the chassis, the less harsh suspension needs to be. Jump in a modern Ferrari or especially McLaren, amd the ride is flat out plush. Makes my abarth or my 930 feel like penalty boxes. The abarth has a serious disadvantage in the rear. You can make that torsion bar rest handle phenomenally. But it will never handle the road great, and stiffer, is probably better in its case. Ohh and most coilovers are about 1 level above a lego set in quality.
    Yea, Coilovers are definitely over kill for people who just want to be "low"

    Stock suspensions on performance cars are very capable and comfortable these days, although expensive to replace. Its one of the main reasons we always took out the stock suspensions form the 997 and and 991s gt3rs's we prepped for the track. A set of Bilstien PSS9 or PSS10s were definitely way cheaper to replace should they reach their end of life. They also have less to worry about breaking on the track like nose lift and mag ride struts.

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    Well yea that's dofferemt on a track prepped car setup by knowledgable person. Experocne is going to allow them to dial in decent before a wheel ever turns. But for your average joe, if your not adjusting from tends in lap times, and a sensitive enough driver, you're probably just creating a poor handling car. Gt3 ride is so harsh because there is so little suspension travel from factory. Giant wheels also limit suspension travel. Jump in an old 911 suspension travel is fantastic.
    2013 abarth
    Spec 2+ clutch
    Working on new divided turbo setup
    Homebrew fmic w/ corsa forza hoses
    Stock Downpipe with cat and 2.25discharge
    Coils
    Homemade cowl intake
    ECB yellows/stop tech fluid
    Koni/vogtland
    Braces and strut mounts
    Corsa forza vento
    E30 blend

    2013 abarth tork tuned
    cowl intake, custom fmic and bypass valve, vogtlands, rear vette bilstiens, long 3 inch downpipe to stock rear section.

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