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    Quote Originally Posted by Volfy View Post
    At the current state-of-the-art levels, yes. That still leaves a lot to be desired. The range of EV and the recharging intrastructure is still not at a point where it can reliably replace fossil fuel vehicles. To break through those barriers, there will still be some substantial R&D involved for new battery technologies, and investment on charging stations as ubiquitous as gas stations.

    IMO, EV isn't the holy grail that a lot of folks think it is. China, for example, is charting course towards hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.
    I'm by no means a Tesla Fan Boy, but do give them credit in quickly being able to advance battery technology in full EV's. Remember a few years ago, Elon Musk invited any of the auto manufacturers to take the technology Tesla had developed and use it for their own brand(s). Even with that, some manufacturers still aren't providing the battery management technology that Tesla does in their cars. Take the Nissan Leaf.. Even after several years of being available, Nissan still doesn't cool the battery in the leaf during charging phases, nor does it manage the battery temperatures in any form. Tesla has shown that battery management, including temperature, is key to longevity and mileage.

    Are charging stations as convenient as gas stations? No. But unlike other brands if you own a Tesla, it will tell you where the next charging station is related to your trip, and what the estimated amount of charge will be when you get there.

    Recently the guy who does the Engineering Explained-videos on Youtube took a 2,000 mile trip with his Model 3. Surprisingly, with some slight differences in driving style as it pertains to timing the charging intervals, the amount of charge time didn't cut that much into a cross country trip. Amounted to just planning your meals around charging times. Here is his video on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC95WACQhCY&t=425s

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyfromVA View Post
    I'm by no means a Tesla Fan Boy, but do give them credit in quickly being able to advance battery technology in full EV's. Remember a few years ago, Elon Musk invited any of the auto manufacturers to take the technology Tesla had developed and use it for their own brand(s). Even with that, some manufacturers still aren't providing the battery management technology that Tesla does in their cars. Take the Nissan Leaf.. Even after several years of being available, Nissan still doesn't cool the battery in the leaf during charging phases, nor does it manage the battery temperatures in any form. Tesla has shown that battery management, including temperature, is key to longevity and mileage.

    Are charging stations as convenient as gas stations? No. But unlike other brands if you own a Tesla, it will tell you where the next charging station is related to your trip, and what the estimated amount of charge will be when you get there.

    Recently the guy who does the Engineering Explained-videos on Youtube took a 2,000 mile trip with his Model 3. Surprisingly, with some slight differences in driving style as it pertains to timing the charging intervals, the amount of charge time didn't cut that much into a cross country trip. Amounted to just planning your meals around charging times. Here is his video on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC95WACQhCY&t=425s
    We just came back from our vacation around Colorado - not in the 500X but our trusty minvan. I was surprised to see several Teslas on our way to and from some of the high elevation Continental Passes. They all had Colorado plates, so I doubt they were interstate travelers like us, but it was still impressive to see them on routes that include steep climbs and long distances between service stations of any kind.

    Yes, EV have come a long way, and they will continue to get better. Personally, I would not dare doing our 3000 mile trip between Houston and Colorado in an EV. Not in the Summer heat heavily loaded with the whole family + luggage on board and A/C blowing the whole way. I looked on openchargemap website and there are several legs where the distances between charging stations would be pushing the limits of even the best EV. Even if the car makes those long drives, if the single charge station at the destination is out, we would be in big doodoo. Many of the charging stations are hotels that restrict access to their customers only. That is just more risk than I care to take with my family. On our way back, I made a last minute route change to detour through Lubbock, TX to visit a motorcycle gear store. Other than adding about an hour to our drive, we didn't even think twice about it. Driving through West Texas is no joke. There ain't nothing but tumble weeds for hundred of miles. In the minivan, the only risk was boredom. In an EV...

    That kid in the YT vid can pick and choose his route and time of year to show off his Tesla. I can't.
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    I can understand wanting a new car. Hey, if you hate the car, dump it. But I'm probably not catching the full story. Maybe there's a long time delay between the repair and the the problems? As I'm reading it, correct me if I'm wrong, but you had the tranny replaced and new noises popped up as you drove off. Your solution was to self diagnose and yank parts? If it's w/in 90 days (usual warranty period for repairs) you take the car back and let them have a look.

    As for the remarks (from others) on lousy service, anyone who has a complicated job makes mistakes. The trouble is, the dealer didn't have a chance to make it right, or find the problem. If it was a failed CV joint (something that should have been caught) they'll sometimes offer a discount. And, yes, parts DO fail at the oddest times, often after service. If the inner CV joint failed, as you suspect, it could damage the seal... nothing related to the repair.

    Half my vehicles problems (it seems) happen within hours of another repair. As an example, had oil changed, got a mile or two from the shop, and the truck boils over. My first thought was they'd broken something. Turns out it was a frozen thermostat.

    I think the gist of your story is the car has doubtful reliability, a poor reputation, is getting up in miles, and you didn't like driving it. You found a car that's better in every way. Yours is starting to have new problems that may be expensive to repair. Those are all excellent reasons to swap cars. That's your choice and not one you can slam the dealer on.

    As Super Chicken said, "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred!" (I knew my car's, and Fiat's, reputation when I bought it.)

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