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A question for the board on 2017 500X pop standard radio
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    A question for the board on 2017 500X pop standard radio

    Hey guys first time posting, but lurking a while. I appreciate the boards wealth of knowledge here.

    In August I managed to snag a new 2017 pop 1.4T with 6 speed for $8K off....truly a score, $11K for a $19K car. Sat on a lot for a year solid with no takers, it had 44 miles when I bought it.

    Now it's totally a base model no frills on anything including the audio (base unit with 4 speakers).

    I've been driving it a while and it's not nearly as much fun as my '12 Abarth 500 was (early demise after hitting a deer).

    But the good news is, my wife loves driving it, even more than her Escape Titanium. There's just one catch... the trimmings. She does like "stuff" but the biggie is the radio.

    So, thinking I may do some horse trading for her car to another Abarth for me (all of it's paid for), but I will HAVE to upgrade the audio and probably do some wheel and tires to get her good with the idea.

    So my thinking is, just replicate the factory's premium audio package (i.e. 10 speakers with amp, 2 DIN Android head unit with camera and XM) seeing how the provisions are there for speaker placement.

    The questions are ...

    With out totally disassembling my interior to find out, is the car "pre-wired" for premium audio and just not used, or am i going to have to budget and expect to do all of this as well?

    Does the board have a better idea for my plan than replicating the factory system?

    Are there any other non-performance (she likes the mpg vs the "pep") upgrades you guys have performed that made a world of difference in your opinions?

    Thanks for any inputs!

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    While I don’t know the answer to your question about the wiring harness, I would search the forums of the Jeep Renegade as both the 500X and Renegade are built on the same assembly line at the same time with mostly common parts that provides FCA with a cost saving (from procurement to spare parts). The Renegade forums are more active from what I have seen.

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    Wow, that's a great deal! We did great on our '18 Lounge AWD this past December too.

    As for the audio system... we have the "premium" Beats audio and frankly I wouldn't bother trying to "upgrade" to it. It isn't aweful, but nothing to write home about or spend any serious money on either. You'd be better off spending your money on aftermarket. I used to do car audio and alarm installs many moons ago and I know it isn't hard to replace these stock systems with one that will be vastly superior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chitbox dodge View Post
    With out totally disassembling my interior to find out, is the car "pre-wired" for premium audio and just not used, or am i going to have to budget and expect to do all of this as well?
    Im sure the all the Xs are prewired for the premium sound system, however, everything is controlled through the computer. This is the case with the fog lights all over again. My car did not come with fog lights but I found that the wires were hanging inside the bumper, so I plugged them in. It did not work even after flashing the BCM, so I had to connect them to the battery as there was no way for me to have them work as OEM.

    I think you would waste a ton of money buying all the original components for nothing as it might not work and you can buy higher quality speakers for less. I do like my beats audio to be honest; I think the system is decent and even better than other premium sound systems like the Bose system on the Acadia Denali - its disappointing. But I do agree that could be better. Mine Came with the 6.5 uconnect, which is not awesome and not CarPlay capable. Thought on upgrading to the Alpine 9 which costs $900, but I cannot at the moment. Id go with a kenwood or alpine, but thats my preference. If youre not looking for things like HD radio or gps, Sony headunits are decent and cheaper than most youll find. I'm not an expert. Just sharing my thoughts. Hope it helps.
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    Thanks for the input guys. I think I may have put out a misconception though.
    My plan was to put out a stereo system "like" the beats system, but only in terms of premium head unit, 9 speakers and an amplifier.
    I wasn't wanting to buy the fiat system parts at all, only aftermarket stuff of similar size for an easier fitment/installation.

    I was wanting to do this by filling all the empty speaker holes that exist now, if that makes any sense.
    It's good to know that the factory wiring harnesses exist beyond pulling the car apart to verify this.

    But I am stuck on whether or not the speakers would work if they are ran through the body control module or not (or some other hang up from the factory).
    I guess this was the answer I was wanting is would this be an issue or not?

    So in short, adapt all new parts for use with factory harnesses for clean installation, including adapters so I don't need to hack and splice everything in and can
    keep the function of what limited controls I have (steering wheel volume and channel control, etc.). I know there are companies making this stuff, I just don't know
    if the BCM would interfere with this.

    Would someone have a wiring diagram or logic diagram by any chance that would support my plan?

    And by the way, she went for this plan! Got my Abarth 500 last weekend. With my trade I actually got a little cash back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volfy View Post
    Wow, that's a great deal! We did great on our '18 Lounge AWD this past December too.
    Yeah, we made out pretty well on that. It was an internet deal that took about two weeks to complete.
    I had to watch it for a little while, but the dealer at that time had three 500X Pops with nothing on them.
    One red, one white and one silver. Brand new cars that sat on the lot a solid year, with 2018's coming in they had to get them gone.

    I got the car with 44 miles on it! Saved so much I had negotiated delivery to my door. (cost $450)

    If you know exactly what you want in a car, the internet is the only way to buy in my opinion.

    Now its in line to get a set of 18X8's next weekend and some other "pimping" as my wife says shortly thereafter.

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    On the speaker wiring,

    first, I was a car audio and electronics installer/salesman/manager for about 8 years at several different sizes and types of shops. I have a Pop like yours and intend to do about the same so I’ll share some relevant tips and insight. This is what I will do in mine.

    -the speakers most likely come from the radio or a remotely mounted amplifier. The easiest way to start is to get a radio install harness. Pull the radio and plug the bare harness in. The aftermarket colors are standardized so it will show you what each should be. Now test each with a multi meter. Once I make sure the speaker wire pairs seem safe, I will pop each pair with a battery (12v drill batteries are great for this). If they pop, you know there’s no separate amp. You also be able to verify the locations are colored correctly.

    -That will hopefully get you to each door. The rear doors have a tweeter location so I’ll use the crossovers that come with the components and find a safe place in the door to mount it. I’ll mount the tweeter behind the stock tweeter grill.

    -the front tweeter location is in the dash. This will take more work to wire. Probably the easiest plan is to find the speaker wires just before they go to the door harness and put the crossovers in line to divide the signals. Obviously midrange to the door then run your own wire thru the dash to the tweeter location. I haven’t popped those dash grills yet but I looks like there should be more than enough room to make a mount to center a tweeter under those grills.

    -I will be using a 5 channel amp and recommend the same. I’ll most likely build a subwoofer box for a single 8” and rack to support the amp, all under the trunk carpet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chitbox dodge View Post
    Yeah, we made out pretty well on that. It was an internet deal that took about two weeks to complete.
    I had to watch it for a little while, but the dealer at that time had three 500X Pops with nothing on them.
    One red, one white and one silver. Brand new cars that sat on the lot a solid year, with 2018's coming in they had to get them gone.

    I got the car with 44 miles on it! Saved so much I had negotiated delivery to my door. (cost $450)

    If you know exactly what you want in a car, the internet is the only way to buy in my opinion.
    We drove 160 miles to another dealer that had a lot more inventory to choose from, including several exact what we were looking for. We haggled with them in the showroom and it didn't take long. I always tried to tell the dealer up front I'm there to buy, but I don't want to waste their time any more they want to waste mine. I already knew what I can get with my closer-to-home dealers, and being December, the deal was theirs to lose. We ended up saving 10k off the MSRP with no dealer add-ons.

    Anyhow, about the audio system. Don't have wiring diagrams, but that would be the only way to be sure. You might check to see ebay if somebody sells it there. Sometimes dealers dump their previous yr service books (either paper or DVDs) there.
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    I'm pulling from memory of a year ago, but I believe the stereo installer said the wiring was present for the tweeters in the front dash. No wiring is present for the factory amp or subwoofer. The speakers are not controlled by the BCM so you can upgrade them and the radio without issues. You can keep all factory buttons by using iDatalink's Maestro, which works only with certain brands of radio (Pioneer and Kenwood for sure). I upgraded my Pop's stereo to a Pioneer apple CarPlay, added Polk front dash tweeters that were crossed over to the Polk 6.5" midrange in the front doors, switched out the rear door speakers for Polk 2 way 6.5", added a rear view camera, and added a powered Kicker 8" subwoofer under the front passenger seat. The system sounded great! Hope this info helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carfreak09 View Post
    I'm pulling from memory of a year ago, but I believe the stereo installer said the wiring was present for the tweeters in the front dash. No wiring is present for the factory amp or subwoofer. The speakers are not controlled by the BCM so you can upgrade them and the radio without issues. You can keep all factory buttons by using iDatalink's Maestro, which works only with certain brands of radio (Pioneer and Kenwood for sure). I upgraded my Pop's stereo to a Pioneer apple CarPlay, added Polk front dash tweeters that were crossed over to the Polk 6.5" midrange in the front doors, switched out the rear door speakers for Polk 2 way 6.5", added a rear view camera, and added a powered Kicker 8" subwoofer under the front passenger seat. The system sounded great! Hope this info helps.
    Wow! That was incredibly helpful information. Thank you very much.

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