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    Fiat is displaying their 2019 model lineup at the 2019 NY Auto Show, going on Fri, Apr 19, 2019 – Sun, Apr 28, 2019. Here is a sneak peek at the cars on display.The 2019 Fiat 500X was prominently displayed with the Adventurer Edition package. Note the new LED headlight design!Read more about the Fiat 500X Adventurer Edition. The 2019 Fiat 500X has a new standard engine- the ...

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    Chris, I have a question: If the X now has the new 1.3 Firefly engine, that means it is certified for the U.S., so why haven't they opted to put this engine in the Abarth?
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    Thanks for the report, we visited the NYIAS yesterday and I think there was a good number of people checking out the FIAT area. Next door at the Jeep display, a TON of people, some of the new Gladiators, so overall the FCA family was well represented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaDawg View Post
    Chris, I have a question: If the X now has the new 1.3 Firefly engine, that means it is certified for the U.S., so why haven't they opted to put this engine in the Abarth?
    I would think that the monumental costs of reengineering the car to take a new engine this late in its production cycle is weighing in on that. Remember, they have to recertify for EPA fuel economy and then likely recalibrate stability control settings if there are weight differences. The costs are astronomical, thanks to government regulations. A bit of trivia is one of the reason the Giulia doesn't have a manual trans in America according to an Alfa exec, is the substantial cost of calibrating stability control settings for a manual trans.
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    Agree with Chris. The 500 we get is engineered for the 1.4 , 1.2 and the TwinAir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanintowson View Post
    Agree with Chris. The 500 we get is engineered for the 1.4 , 1.2 and the TwinAir.
    Another bit of Trivia. During the 500 Abarth press drive, the product planner was my captive passenger and I grilled him on a lot of questions (many answers were posted here on the Questions for The Abarth Engineers thread). One of the topics we discussed were the possibilities of them bringing the diesels in. Besides the somewhere around $3000 certification per car cost (not counting the $1000 extra for the engine (thank you EPA), he mentioned the fact that they had 4 powertrains certified for the 500 ( NA MultiAir, MultiAir Turbo 500T, MultiAir Turbo Abarth, and EV) and that was a lot for a non-volume, niche car. The takeaway is pretty much all the cool things an enthusiast wants is shot down due to costs of regulations.

    Having said all that, I would expect the FireFly to show up somewhere at some point. Besides the Electric 500, the current generation with some upgrades will be sold in Europe and the FireFly series meets new emission standards so it's going into something. What we get is still tight under wraps. I sure hope we see it soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiat500USA View Post
    Another bit of Trivia. During the 500 Abarth press drive, the product planner was my captive passenger and I grilled him on a lot of questions (many answers were posted here on the Questions for The Abarth Engineers thread). One of the topics we discussed were the possibilities of them bringing the diesels in. Besides the somewhere around $3000 certification per car cost (not counting the $1000 extra for the engine (thank you EPA), he mentioned the fact that they had 4 powertrains certified for the 500 ( NA MultiAir, MultiAir Turbo 500T, MultiAir Turbo Abarth, and EV) and that was a lot for a non-volume, niche car. The takeaway is pretty much all the cool things an enthusiast wants is shot down due to costs of regulations.

    Having said all that, I would expect the FireFly to show up somewhere at some point. Besides the Electric 500, the current generation with some upgrades will be sold in Europe and the FireFly series meets new emission standards so it's going into something. What we get is still tight under wraps. I sure hope we see it soon.
    As far as a engine choice for the car , I think the 1.3T firefly would go well with the 500 or 500 abarth. But it things was up to me, this is what I would do.
    I would put the 1.3T in the normal 500, then make a 1.4 T for the abarth try and get 200hp. Then for the 500X add 1.3T and 2.0T for the upper trim. Then add the 1.3T to the 124, and maybe a 2.0T firefly for the 124 abarth. I think those would go well with those cars plus make them more competitive with the segment. What do you guys think ?

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    I don't care what evreybody else wants, I hope the NEVER put the new engines in, because they are direct injection instead of the port injection now. DI is just another sop to the ridiculous mileage requirements.

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    I think you are miss quoting. Usually direct injection has more power.

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