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    Wheels are ordered now to figure out the tires...

    So since I missed out on these selling out in North America, I had to search Europe but I found a UK vendor and theyre ordered.
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    Now I need to decide on tires. The stock and recommended size is 225/45/18 but, I rarely stop at stock or recommended. Im looking at maybe a 235/45. A 245/45 is almost the exact diameter as stock but, I think is too wide on a 7.5 rim. Keep in mind Im lowered about 1.2F/1R. Any intelligent or educated suggestions?
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    I understand this is FWD version.

    AWD has stock of 225/55x18, which is 663.5 mm tall.
    If your stock is 225/45x18, then it is 626.0 mm tall.

    Putting 245/45x18 makes the height at 641.0 mm

    Having said that - it would fit just fine.
    Why?
    My assumption, and probably quite correct one, is that FWD is same as AWD except the powetrain. Body and suspension are same. Ground clearance is higher for AWD, but this is accomplished by taller tires.

    By doing math - AWD is at 663 mm, FWD is at 626, that is 37 mm difference. Drop 1/2" from the front (lowered ride) will make it at 25 mm difference. Now, the new tire is 225/45x18 (641 mm) and is taller by 22.5 mm from stock. Overall it still leaves 2.5 mm gap when comparing to AWD version.
    Rear is not so much important as the wheels do not turn, but in that case the tires will fill the fender a bit more making it 10 mm deeper than AWD.

    Final thought - I presume OFFSET is considered here to be same or very close to OEM. In other words - the new rim/tire will be centered as the OEM was. 225 vs 245 is not much (roughly 10 mm to each side), but if offset is "pokey" then this 10 mm may be deciding factor.


    Oh, and one more thing.
    245 can be installed on 7.5 rim. All tires I looked at said 245/45x18 can go on 7.5".
    Comparing width to width is not enough. Profile makes a big difference. 245/30x18 might require more than 8.0", while 245/65x19 could probably even fit on 7.0"... sidewall will accommodate the "bulge".
    I do not have the table now, but I had one that was comparing tires and rims. All 3 things were considered: section width, profile, and rim width. Also, not shown there, but rim height plays a role, too. Not as important, but does.
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    I have 225/45 Ohtsu FP7000 on mine and have no issues with clearance on an 18X8 rim with +40 backspace. The face of the rim sits quite flush with the fenders edge.
    Overall it looks much better in my opinion. The ride is much smoother than the choppy continentals FCA puts on at the factory.
    I do think a 235 would come out past the rims a tiny smidge, not that's a big issue, but the price jump in tires I couldn't justify.
    In a nutshell, the tires went up another $75 for 5 mm of rubber and the number of choices went down (manufacturer wise).

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    I’ve already decided on tire brand and model. The 235 is like $10ish more per tire. Kinda negligible at that point. Just waiting on the lugs and hub centric rings that didn’t get shipped with the wheels. With the headache these have been so far, they’re getting Michelin’s.

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    Well the tires were ordered this past weekend and showed up at the shop today. I went with Michelin Pilots in 235/45. Now I’m waiting for hub centric rings to arrive and I’ll hopefully get this done ✅
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