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    Clamp on gt1752 cartridges @ atp now!

    Hey all,

    I was looking at doing something larger than my 1752 and using a full system with new manifold or maybe go divided. While browsing, I noticed atp is now selling vband gt1752 cartdriges for 575. Which is great. I got mine a few months back and that was only because my friend was an engineer at a Brazilian Garrett plant for years and had some connections. Almost every gt17 to gt28 and smaller cartridge on the market is segmented. So now you can easily get a proper cartridge to make a bolt on gt1752 about half the assembled unit.
    2013 abarth
    Homebrew gt1752 bolt on
    Homebrew fmic w/ corsa forza hoses
    Stock Downpipe with cat and 2.25discharge
    Coils
    Homemade cowl intake(too loud moving to passenger intercooler location)
    ECB yellows/stop tech fluid
    Koni/vogtland
    Braces and strut mounts
    Corsa forza vento bar
    Custom tuned and flashed with openflash hardeware

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    so how exactly does this bolt up. Can you use the oem compressor and turbine housings? or does it require a new compressor housing?

    Also, out of curiosity, how did you go about doing the custom tuning on the oft?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketsausage View Post
    so how exactly does this bolt up. Can you use the oem compressor and turbine housings? or does it require a new compressor housing?

    Also, out of curiosity, how did you go about doing the custom tuning on the oft?
    You spend money and hope and pray that OFT actually replies to you. My friend is STILL waiting for a reply back on the index file (2+ years and counting).


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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketsausage View Post
    so how exactly does this bolt up. Can you use the oem compressor and turbine housings? or does it require a new compressor housing?

    Also, out of curiosity, how did you go about doing the custom tuning on the oft?
    Well, 99.9% of of Garrett small turbos have segmented center sections. So you use little clamps bolted to the turbine housing to hold it on. Atp is selling a vband cartridge. The 1446 is vband. I got my 1752 before they started selling them. I had to use a friend with connections to even find a vband 1752 cartridge. Atp is selling then for like $575 bucks. You have your factory exhaust housing machined to fit the 1752, and use a 1752 compressor cover from some other application. I bought a 3" in, 2.25 out for 20 bucks on ebay. I run by bypass valve on my intercooler end tank with a ecoboost bypass valve solenoid wired up. Works perfect. All said, I maybe had $800 in the turbo with new lines and machine work. I bought a core 1446 turbo and manifold on ebay for $120. And used that turbine housing and ported that manifold. So it's a brand new Garrett gt1752 that will bolt onto a fiat for 60% of atp. $800 wasnt including core turbo I bought. But you could use your 1446 on the car of course. You have to figure out what u want to do for a bypass valve. It's a lot easier to run on the piping or intercooler itself than modify a comp housing.
    2013 abarth
    Homebrew gt1752 bolt on
    Homebrew fmic w/ corsa forza hoses
    Stock Downpipe with cat and 2.25discharge
    Coils
    Homemade cowl intake(too loud moving to passenger intercooler location)
    ECB yellows/stop tech fluid
    Koni/vogtland
    Braces and strut mounts
    Corsa forza vento bar
    Custom tuned and flashed with openflash hardeware

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    Quote Originally Posted by doverosx View Post
    You spend money and hope and pray that OFT actually replies to you. My friend is STILL waiting for a reply back on the index file (2+ years and counting).
    My experience with open flash has been the exact opposite. I was supplied with everything I needed within 2 days of contracting him. I had a little trouble getting things going in tunerprort. But that was more my lack of computer knowledge. The last time I tuned a car myself it was using dos based stuff with haltech e6k, and original wolf 3d. He still to this very day is helping me with advise and support on tuning my setup. I'm getting a p0139 because the rear 02 is seeing a quick enough voltage drop with my afr's. Its gonna take a lot of digging and trial and error. But shiv is trying to locate this coding in the ecu for me so I can eliminate jist this one fault code but keep my rear o2 in place so it can still be used by ecu to keep front calibrated

    Shiv really wants to support the fiat community. He wants the open flash to be a popular option for the abarth. But he isnt gonna come up with a million stages, and options and ferrari tunes and crap. He only offers people what they need. He isnt interested in charging people for noveltys. That philosophy for some reason doesn't seem to work as well with abarth community. They want the frivolous crap. The abarth ecu is smart and adaptable. Shiv offer two different boost levels. These support fully bolt on cars. If you want to go custom for large turbo or other reasons, he charges 250 bucks to give you a tune made exactly for you or use his inencrpyted files to tune yourself with tunerprort, romraider, mega tune, erc.. but for small upgrades, like a 1752, the off the shelf maps run the car well, and my car didnt need a lot to optimize for a a larger turbo. They are really all you need till the point where you've run out of injector. So 750, you can have a custom tune, made for your car, or you can have a generic stage 0, stage 1, a stage 2, some ferrari ****, and you car can go snap crackle pop, and then pay another 350 for a generic stage 3.

    Btw, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the EC tunes. I've had them side by side on similar cars with the open flash standard tunes. They are both great and offer about the same power. I do think ec numbers are perfect scenario glory runs. Side by side in real world conditions, the cars were basically identical power wise. They are both good, powerful tunes. And both cars drive great. Open flash throttle in non sport mode sucks. It's no different than stock. But they nailed it in sport mode. It's as natural and linear as old Porsche mechanical linkage.
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    2013 abarth
    Homebrew gt1752 bolt on
    Homebrew fmic w/ corsa forza hoses
    Stock Downpipe with cat and 2.25discharge
    Coils
    Homemade cowl intake(too loud moving to passenger intercooler location)
    ECB yellows/stop tech fluid
    Koni/vogtland
    Braces and strut mounts
    Corsa forza vento bar
    Custom tuned and flashed with openflash hardeware

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    I was doing another one of these for a friend forgot to mention wastegate. If.your going to leave the compressor firing down the wastegate will be way off. On ebay, there are several universal wastgeates that come with straight and bent arms and multiple clevis. I was able to make these use of this with a slight bit of bending and some slotting on holes to move the actuator slightly. Depending on what gt1752 compressor cover you use is gonna change wastegate mounting a whole lot.
    2013 abarth
    Homebrew gt1752 bolt on
    Homebrew fmic w/ corsa forza hoses
    Stock Downpipe with cat and 2.25discharge
    Coils
    Homemade cowl intake(too loud moving to passenger intercooler location)
    ECB yellows/stop tech fluid
    Koni/vogtland
    Braces and strut mounts
    Corsa forza vento bar
    Custom tuned and flashed with openflash hardeware

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    That's fantastic! A bigger turbo wakes these cars up and the 1752 is still my favourite out of the turbos I've run to this day. Not the most power but it drove incredibly well.

    For $800ish all in, that's a steal.
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    Yea they are 525 now and readily available. Just need to mod, find an appropriate compressor cover and do a wastegate. When I got mine, finding a vband exhaust housing connection cartridge took a Garrett insider. Oh and hoses.
    2013 abarth
    Homebrew gt1752 bolt on
    Homebrew fmic w/ corsa forza hoses
    Stock Downpipe with cat and 2.25discharge
    Coils
    Homemade cowl intake(too loud moving to passenger intercooler location)
    ECB yellows/stop tech fluid
    Koni/vogtland
    Braces and strut mounts
    Corsa forza vento bar
    Custom tuned and flashed with openflash hardeware

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saponetta View Post
    Yea they are 525 now and readily available. Just need to mod, find an appropriate compressor cover and do a wastegate. When I got mine, finding a vband exhaust housing connection cartridge took a Garrett insider. Oh and hoses.
    Yes! That little cartridge clamp is a pain to get ahold of. I went through that with the 1752 on my black 124. When the 1752 came off of the 500 it was on, the center clamps got switched :-/ The 1752 clamp worked (but was a little loose) on the 1446. I had to actually drive and hunt down the 500 at a dealership and swap out the clamp on their front lawn. I’m lucky they let me lol
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    Well yes it's a pain too. But also, 99.9% of garret gt17 turbos are segmented not v band. You basically have to be a big supplier asking for them or an employee to get one in no one is retailing vband cartdriges. Atp wasnt selling them before as cartridges. Jist complete turbos. I like the 1752 also. Not to knock the hybrid builder, but no shop built turbo will match a factory balanced turbo for longevity and durability.
    2013 abarth
    Homebrew gt1752 bolt on
    Homebrew fmic w/ corsa forza hoses
    Stock Downpipe with cat and 2.25discharge
    Coils
    Homemade cowl intake(too loud moving to passenger intercooler location)
    ECB yellows/stop tech fluid
    Koni/vogtland
    Braces and strut mounts
    Corsa forza vento bar
    Custom tuned and flashed with openflash hardeware

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