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    FCA just fine, says new CEO

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500ways View Post
    I'd feel better about that if a) all the Fiat dealers near me stopped leaving the Alfa Studio and moving into the Chrysler building down the street, and B) if the Chrysler buildings down the street ACTUALLY decided to do warranty work and service on FIAT vehicles. As it stands now, the two closest to me don't do any FIAT work.

    Maybe it will change.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500ways View Post
    Jeep is just fine thank you very much.... lol.... They could end Fiat in NA and it wouldn't do much for the company bottom line, probably improve it a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aelfwyne View Post
    Jeep is just fine thank you very much.... lol.... They could end Fiat in NA and it wouldn't do much for the company bottom line, probably improve it a bit.
    Exactly. FCA is just fine.
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    Yes and pay no mind to that little emission cheating fine FCA is paying. A paltry $800,000,000. If I were Hoaxwagen, I'd be pissed. They had to pay much more than that.

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    I think with Volkswagen they nailed them so badly because of the intent. Chrysler I don't believe ever went so far as to deceive the emission testing regime but to optimize operations under the conditions that the vehicles are tested. VW straight up deactivated half of their emissions software after testing.

    As it stands right now FCA is doing very well. They are nearly debt free, making compelling and fun cars, they own the large car segment almost entirely, Jeeps are selling like mad, hell even the Dodge Journey is selling in huge numbers. My dad just bought a ScatPack Challenger and he's become a MOPAR convert as his prized F150 now is suffering from defective door latches that Ford can't seem to fix. FCA also has the advantage of being smaller and more nimble than Ford or GM. They are well placed to compete during a recession and have good leadership.

    They will keep FIAT in North America for one reason: a hedge against fuel prices. When fuel prices inevitably rise at some point, they will have small efficient cars they can market to take advantage of a surge in demand for those cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanintowson View Post
    I think with Volkswagen they nailed them so badly because of the intent. Chrysler I don't believe ever went so far as to deceive the emission testing regime but to optimize operations under the conditions that the vehicles are tested. VW straight up deactivated half of their emissions software after testing.

    As it stands right now FCA is doing very well. They are nearly debt free, making compelling and fun cars, they own the large car segment almost entirely, Jeeps are selling like mad, hell even the Dodge Journey is selling in huge numbers. My dad just bought a ScatPack Challenger and he's become a MOPAR convert as his prized F150 now is suffering from defective door latches that Ford can't seem to fix. FCA also has the advantage of being smaller and more nimble than Ford or GM. They are well placed to compete during a recession and have good leadership.

    They will keep FIAT in North America for one reason: a hedge against fuel prices. When fuel prices inevitably rise at some point, they will have small efficient cars they can market to take advantage of a surge in demand for those cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanintowson View Post

    As it stands right now FCA is doing very well. They are nearly debt free, making compelling and fun cars,
    Unfortunately with some of the worst manufacturing quality control and most safety recalls in each brand for both models years 2017 and 2018.

    Quote Originally Posted by bryanintowson View Post
    they own the large car segment almost entirely, Jeeps are selling like mad, hell even the Dodge Journey is selling in huge numbers. My dad just bought a ScatPack Challenger and he's become a MOPAR convert as his prized F150 now is suffering from defective door latches that Ford can't seem to fix. FCA also has the advantage of being smaller and more nimble than Ford or GM. They are well placed to compete during a recession and have good leadership.
    It's great your father is pleased with his FCA experience, but that's anecdotal evidence. What is the CEO of any manufacturer going to say? 'I have to admit we struggle with getting our product offerings and quality control relevant to a shrinking consumer base'. I think if any CEO spoke the truth to that level of honesty, the Board would ask them to resign the following week.

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    They will keep FIAT in North America for one reason: a hedge against fuel prices. When fuel prices inevitably rise at some point, they will have small efficient cars they can market to take advantage of a surge in demand for those cars.
    Fiat as it relates to North America is being kept on life support to protect FCA's relationship with Mexico alive. FCA made a ten year commitment to maintain the Toluca Mexico plant, and have been looking at replacing existing models being built at that plant with future models. Because RAM pickups are built in Saltillo Mexico, FCA doesn't want to run afoul with the sweetheart deal they've got with the Mexican government. Once the ten year commitment is up in 2021, all bets are off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyfromVA View Post
    Unfortunately with some of the worst manufacturing quality control and most safety recalls in each brand for both models years 2017 and 2018.



    It's great your father is pleased with his FCA experience, but that's anecdotal evidence. What is the CEO of any manufacturer going to say? 'I have to admit we struggle with getting our product offerings and quality control relevant to a shrinking consumer base'. I think if any CEO spoke the truth to that level of honesty, the Board would ask them to resign the following week.



    Fiat as it relates to North America is being kept on life support to protect FCA's relationship with Mexico alive. FCA made a ten year commitment to maintain the Toluca Mexico plant, and have been looking at replacing existing models being built at that plant with future models. Because RAM pickups are built in Saltillo Mexico, FCA doesn't want to run afoul with the sweetheart deal they've got with the Mexican government. Once the ten year commitment is up in 2021, all bets are off.
    FCA has made significant investments in the electric tech. I expect to see the Fiat 500 become a completely electric vehicle for the US. Maybe the Abarth will become imported from Europe, or become the Alfa Mito.
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    If I heard correctly, that's what Smart Car did. After 2018 no more petro engines, they are going all electric.

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