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2020 Fiat 124 Spider Model Year Changes - Page 2
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    I watched Richard Hammond review the 124 on Grand Tour: loved it, more than the Miata, one of his personal favs. Then I watched Matt LeBlanc review it on Top Gear: hated it. But his review was stupid, so Hammond FTW. lol.

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    Look's amazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ando View Post
    I'm also being a bit of a debbie downer for the sake of being a contrarian. In real life the FIAT is probably still better to drive.

    Mazda gained HP between the old redline and the new redline and got slightly taller gears to support it. The multiair 1.4T gets more torque sooner and has shorter ratios so you can run through the gears more often. So, the extra HP gives the Miata the advantage on a track, but the 124 is still the around town champ. Still, would be nice to see some love. FIAT often gets stuck in circular logic: "Nobody's buying our cars, we can't afford to update them for the US." meanwhile consumers declare "I'll buy a FIAT, once they update A.) B.) or C.)"

    I did read somewhere that you can get the carbon fiber hardtop for the 124 in the US now. Close to $4000 IIRC but it looks better than the MX-5 RF which is priced similarly and you still get a ragtop. Win / Win.
    But the carbon fiber top seems completely pointless to me, since I understand it doesn't free up space or weight of the convertible top... soooooooooo.

    And the original argument that the Fiat has more power to compensate for more weight is moot now that the Miata is both lighter and more powerful than the Fiat. For the Fiat to be viable it either now needs to:

    1) Undercut the Miata on price or offer more standard options for the price
    2) Upgrade the Fiat to the already available 1.3T engine, which bumps factory power to 180 horsepower and 200 lb.-*ft. of torque

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    correction 177/210

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