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Thoughts on Stock Air Box Filters

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  • Fiat_Phil
    • Mar 2016
    • 328

    Thoughts on Stock Air Box Filters

    How many of you have replaced your stock air box filter with a after market one? Thinking of getting a Sprint Filter any feedback is appreciated. Thanks.
  • reedbri

    #2
    I had swapped mine out for a BMC filter. I ran with it for about 2 years, and it definitely made a difference. I'm sure it didn't add any horsepower, but it did seem to pull a bit better. I just changed it out for my AFE intake a couple of months ago, so it's sitting on a shelf.
    Last edited by reedbri; 11-02-2018, 05:22 PM.

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    • Oli
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2019
      • 25

      #3
      I have also the replacement filter in mine, combined with a dual air intake. Pulls better and makes also a little louder intake noise.
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      • KellyfromVA
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 912

        #4
        Purely placebo effect. No different than feeling like your car runs better after it's been washed.

        Aftermarket air filters have little nor any performance benefits. In fact, they can easily do more harm than good.

        Here is a pretty good side-by-side tests of aftermarket air filters. As you can see in the video, the amount of air needed is directly proportional to the actual horsepower capacity of the engine, not the other way around. Putting a "low restriction filter" on just means there is a better chance of passing more dirt along with air:

        Last edited by Fiat500USA; 03-03-2019, 08:58 PM. Reason: embedded video

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        • ice445
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2016
          • 800

          #5
          Originally posted by KellyfromVA
          Purely placebo effect. No different than feeling like your car runs better after it's been washed.

          Aftermarket air filters have little nor any performance benefits. In fact, they can easily do more harm than good.

          Here is a pretty good side-by-side tests of aftermarket air filters. As you can see in the video, the amount of air needed is directly proportional to the actual horsepower capacity of the engine, not the other way around. Putting a "low restriction filter" on just means there is a better chance of passing more dirt along with air: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS69owXpGdY
          Normally correct but this engine runs a deficit when it comes to airflow. The more air you can shove in it, the more top end power you will see. It's slight, but 10HP is 10HP. Obviously a drop in filter is going to give the smallest amount of gains compared to a full intake replacement, but this has been dyno tested.
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          • KellyfromVA
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 912

            #6
            10HP on a 100HP (down hill with a tail wind) engine is a huge increase. I don't see just an air cleaner or aftermarket air box ever generating that sort of gain, unless the stock air filter it replaced had 100,000 miles on it, so the engine was only producing 80HP to begin with.

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            • Oli
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2019
              • 25

              #7
              I think it´s always the whole concept. Installing a cotton-filter makes no sense, if you don´t also remove the restrictors, that come OEM....I´m not sure of what engine you are talking (I was thinking this is the N/A section), but cutting off the intake hose that is sticking in the air-box right after the narrowing, is surely no disadvantage....
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              • ice445
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2016
                • 800

                #8
                Originally posted by KellyfromVA
                10HP on a 100HP (down hill with a tail wind) engine is a huge increase. I don't see just an air cleaner or aftermarket air box ever generating that sort of gain, unless the stock air filter it replaced had 100,000 miles on it, so the engine was only producing 80HP to begin with.
                Sorry, I'm only talking about the turbo ones. On a NA motor you probably wouldn't see any changes.
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                AAD Shifter
                TurboSmart Wastegate Actuator
                Forge Atmospheric BOV
                Neu-F 28mm Rear Bar
                Vogtland Springs
                Alfa 4C Coils
                Competizione CV2 Wheels
                EC Catch Can

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                • KellyfromVA
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 912

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ice445
                  Sorry, I'm only talking about the turbo ones. On a NA motor you probably wouldn't see any changes.
                  Okay understood. That said; generally manufacturers will take superchargers or turbochargers into account when designing the intake path. Sure, I get the whole wanting to hear the cool side of the turbocharger spool up and down more clearly, but I still believe based on tests I've seen that there is little benefit to "low restriction" air filters with an engine that produces less than 500HP.

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                  • Fabio13
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 1154

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Oli
                    I think it´s always the whole concept. Installing a cotton-filter makes no sense, if you don´t also remove the restrictors, that come OEM....I´m not sure of what engine you are talking (I was thinking this is the N/A section), but cutting off the intake hose that is sticking in the air-box right after the narrowing, is surely no disadvantage....
                    Looks to me like you're losing intake air velocity by cutting. Bernouli's Principle.
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                    • Oli
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2019
                      • 25

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Fabio13
                      Looks to me like you're losing intake air velocity by cutting. Bernouli's Principle.
                      But that´s not a carburetor....for what do I need air velocity, when the air, after passing the narrowing, will enter the plenum in front of the air filter, then passing the filter entering the plenum after the filter and then finally will go through the throttle body...
                      No this thing is simply an air restrictor to reduce intake noise.

                      Or do you think these are also inserted due to the positive effect of high air velocity...?

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