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    Juicebox Pro 40 Charge Levels

    Finally upgraded to a L2 charger, got the Juicebox Pro 40a. The JB claims the car is finished charging, but the charge lights are still flashing on the dashboard and the car shows a slightly lower mileage estimate then it did on the 120v charger. Juicenet app shows 0 charge current at that point...

    Probably just comes down to the sense circuit / programming in the charger.

    Just curious what others experience may be...

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    I own the juicebox for 1 year already. It'll charge almost full and will show you on your vehicle its 100%, but I find that opening the door 10 minutes before leaving will reach full charge. There was some publication that provided some info that you do not want to fully charge the car if its going to sit there for a few hours for safety reason. So, i believe Juicebox may have built this safety detection into the charge box. I do love the features that comes with the Juicebox though which is the reason why I installed this over other brand Level 2 charger.

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    I'll just watch it for a while to see how it goes!

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    I have been using a Juicebox 40 (the previous model without the any lights) for a little over a year now. No issues.

    I would say that if the char shows >98% charged once it is done then things are fine. The mileage estimate is not a good indicator of how full the battery is, since it varies based on driving style/conditions.

    But I am curious:

    When you say the "lights are still flashing" do you mean a bunch of solid lights, plus one flashing, to indicate charging progress? -- Or do you get what folks call the "goal posts", where both of the outermost lights on the charging indicator flash and the inner ones are off?

    If you get the second one, it is possible that the Juice box switched off charging before the battery was full, because of a schedule that you set on the Juicebox, or because you limited the amount of charge/miles for this charge. (You can set this up through the Juicebox mobile app or their website).

    If the first one happens (progress indicator), I wonder how long this lasts? -- Supposedly the 500e's battery pack has active cell balancing. If this only lasts for a relatively short while and then the car shuts off, I wonder if cell balancing is going on? (https://www.analog.com/en/technical-...balancing.html)

    I have never seen my car do this, but then I'm hardly ever in my garage at 3am, to check what the lights on the dash do when charging ends...

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    When charging finishes, all five lights on the dash board go solid for a few minutes before turning off completely. Our JuiceBox Pro 40 charges it to 100%.

    I was having the charge drop to about 96% immediately after starting to drive. I ended up replacing the 12 volt battery and it stopped with that weird behavior. Why did this happen? The aging 12 volt battery needed frequent top-offs due to low voltage, so it was waking up the car and charging itself from the high voltage battery, lowering its state of charge.
    2013 Fiat 500e

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeeDubTDI View Post
    The aging 12 volt battery needed frequent top-offs due to low voltage, so it was waking up the car and charging itself from the high voltage battery, lowering its state of charge.
    AFAIK, a low voltage condition in the 12V battery will not wake up the car or initiate charging. Did you actually observe the car waking up, and if so, how did you know it was charging the 12V battery?

    My understanding (based on several years of following 500e forums) is that the 12V battery is only charged under these circumstances:
    1. While the car is turned on.
    2. While the high voltage battery is charging. After the main battery has fully charged, charging stops for both the main battery and the 12V battery.
    3. When the car is turned off for a long period of time, it will wake up once every 2 weeks and charge the 12V battery.

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