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    Thanks for the pics of the mysterious linkage Uligan! Glad it's not the end of the world if it falls. (as long as you can retrieve it)

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    Hi Andy, one more question: Is there any spring in the system, to get the shifter moving over to 3-4? While my recent bushing repair was a tremendous improvement, I still feel, that part could be better.

    BTW, today I installed a cravenspeed short shifter. Now I want it perfect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uligan View Post
    Is there any spring in the system, to get the shifter moving over to 3-4? While my recent bushing repair was a tremendous improvement, I still feel, that part could be better.

    BTW, today I installed a cravenspeed short shifter. Now I want it perfect
    There are two springs responsible for re-centering the gear change between 3&4. The first is a bit of a mystery to me. All I know is that it is integral to the transmission selector shaft and likely internal to the transmission. There is no visible spring on the transmission linkages themselves, yet with the cables disconnected you can push in / pull out the selector shaft and it will recenter itself between 3&4.

    The second spring is in the cabin, attached to the shifter assembly. I'm not certain if your Cravenspeed kit had a place to locate that spring like the OEM assembly or not. My TWM kit replaced the structure that holds the spring so my cabin spring is gone. My shifter does not re-center itself if you let go in neutral between 1st & 2nd but it doesn't bug me when driving. I would prefer it to spring back, but not nearly enough to give up my weighted knob OR TWM shifter. I suspect it isn't that much of an adjustment as my wife hasn't complained of any missed shifts on the rare occasion that she borrows my car. (other than the inevitable muscle memory 5-->6 shift) >.<

    TL;DR: Yes. The spring in the cabin could be beefed up to increase the amount of spring-back in neutral. If you decide to increase the power of that spring, proceed with caution, I imagine a VERY strong spring would have the same effect as constantly resting your hand on the shifter while driving.

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    Hi Andy, does not bother me much as well, but somehow I cant just let it be like this! BTW, the cravenspeed shifter looks very close to stock, is just made better/beefier.

    I wonder whether NGEN's cable adjustment would help (see post #28). Need to collect some energy before I rip out the battery once more and try it. I haven't seen a spring in the cabin, but once I have said energy I may open everything up again once more. It could as well be, that there are springs in the cable assembly istself, but that is currently just a lame gut feeling assumption of mine

    Thanks so much for your help and comments!

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    There is a spring tang on the left that I missed on my first attempt at setting the CS shifter in place. Easy enough to pry and lift and attach over the left shift arm as I recall. I could pull my boot later for a photo if it will help. Let me know if you would like me to indicate it’s location by a picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uligan View Post
    Need to collect some energy before I rip out the battery once more and try it.
    I can relate. I think I need to dig in once more and figure out a way to clean up the transmission side of the equation. The spring in question is just under your shifter boot in the cabin however.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uligan View Post
    I haven't seen a spring in the cabin...
    I'm guessing yours was missing then. You would have needed to touch it to get your OEM shifter out.

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    Hi, @Uligan,
    This is the shifter’s centering mechanism. For reference, the photos were taken at my right knee while seated in the driving position. The black coiled spring has two tangs....one rides over, one under the left shaft. They lock into position on a plastic catch positioned just beyond the shaft. The spring tangs are set in place as shown to provide tension. In your installation you might have trapped the top one below (edit: or lower one above) the shaft.
    Looking at the spring coil direction of roation in relation to the tangs you can see the top tang will wind up below the shaft after it is released and the shifter removed (edit: and the lower tang to the opposite position-above). Grab it and lift it up (edit: or press the other down) while placing the shifter into position, being sure to capture the left shaft between the tangs....then when the shifter is seated, latch tangs into the position.

    Edit: It just occurred to me that it may have been the bottom one that dislodged and you need to restore it’s proper position in order to provide the right tension toward the right (3/4/5/R). You do have tension against 1/2?

    Either way, if you have the spring, and I don’t see any reason you wouldn’t, place it right and you’ll be golden.
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    @streetsurfer: Thanks so much for lifting your shifter boot for me ;-)

    It helped a lot and I looked underneath mine just to find that there is no signs of a spring there! I tried to find one online, but did not find any. Now we need someone with access to a parts catalogue so that we get the part number.

    However, thanks for the effort to take the photo for me and all others who dive into this problem! Taking your photo to the Abarth Chat and see whether s.o. can help. Will report back.

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    So has anyone cleaned up the linkage under the battery tray and noticed a difference? I ask because when I shift down from 5th to 4th its a "chore" sometimes and I've noticed this becoming more of an issue now that its getting warmer outside, so I just don't get it. Between 1st and 2nd it will not going into the middle (neutral), it literally stays to left, making its own N, LOL. I just want this taken care of and I don't want to go to the dealership as my good SA is now at a Dodge dealership, I mean, they work on Darts and they have a manual, hmmm. I have a good buddy who's mechanically inclined, just need some solid leads and yes, I know there's a lot of info here, just need a refresher to this, that's all.
    2013 500 Abarth/Nero metallic...traded in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klasse Act View Post
    So has anyone cleaned up the linkage under the battery tray and noticed a difference?
    Yes, for certain it makes a difference. I'm kicking myself because I ran out of wire wheels before I had gotten the pin perfectly clean, and opted to call it "close enough" instead of driving to the store. It had one spat this winter where it stiffened up on me but otherwise has been a good fix. I'm planning on repeating the process and finishing the job like I should have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Klasse Act View Post
    Between 1st and 2nd it will not going into the middle (neutral), it literally stays to left, making its own N, LOL
    I'm not sure if you are worried or just laughing at the absurdity of the situation, but this neutral position doesn't hurt anything, you could similarly leave the gearchange between 5th and Reverse if you so desired.

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