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    Fiat 500L Wins Best Value, Lowest Ownership Cost Award




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    The 2018 Fiat 500L offers the best value and has the best economic performance in its class according to the Automotive Science Group's (ASG) annual Automotive Performance Index (API) study. The Fiat 500L won the ‘Best Economic Performance Award’ in the 2018 study, beating out all of its 27 competitors which includes cars like the Subaru Outback and Volvo V60. The ASG Best Economic ...

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    Automotive Science Group is a strange bird, for sure.
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    Someone may have spiked your Kool Aid with mushrooms. I visited the Automotive Science Group website, and found no such claim.
    From their site (quoted from Automotive Science Group):

    "BEST BRANDS OF 2018
    2018 BEST BRANDS (33 industry brands assessed)
    BEST ALL-AROUND PERFORMANCE BRAND OF 2018: Mitsubishi
    BEST ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCE BRAND OF 2018: Tesla
    BEST ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE BRAND OF 2018: Mitsubishi
    BEST SOCIAL PERFORMANCE BRAND OF 2018: MINI
    MOST DISTINGUISHED BRAND OF 2018: Toyota"

    "BEST CARS OF 2018

    2018 ALL CARS (irrespective of class, 1,664 vehicles assessed)
    BEST ALL-AROUND PERFORMANCE CAR OF 2018: Toyota Prius Prime
    BEST ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCE CAR OF 2018: Toyota Prius Prime
    BEST ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE CAR OF 2018: Mitsubishi Mirage
    BEST 5 ALL-AROUND PERFORMANCE (SMALL CAR SEGMENT): Toyota Prius C, Ford Focus Electric, Mitsubishi Mirage, Chevrolet Spark, Toyota Yaris
    BEST 5 ALL-AROUND PERFORMANCE (LARGE CAR SEGMENT): Toyota Prius Prime, Hyundai IONIQ (Hybrid/Plug-in), Toyota Prius Eco, Nissan Leaf, Chevrolet Bolt"

    "2018 MINI-COMPACT CARS (106 vehicles assessed)
    BEST ALL-AROUND PERFORMANCE: Chevrolet Spark
    BEST ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCE: BMW i3"

    Here are the links to vehicles that actually did receive awards (none of them Fiat):
    https://www.automotivescience.com/co...ic-performance

    I even looked at other categories, wondering if it was listed there, but no cigar:

    https://www.automotivescience.com/co...s/2017-minivan
    https://www.automotivescience.com/co...nd-performance
    https://www.automotivescience.com/co...mini-crossover
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    Put down the cup of haterade. The 500L did win. Looks like you need to fire your researcher.








    Quote Originally Posted by KellyfromVA View Post
    Someone may have spiked your Kool Aid with mushrooms. I visited the Automotive Science Group website, and found no such claim.
    From their site (quoted from Automotive Science Group):

    "BEST BRANDS OF 2018
    2018 BEST BRANDS (33 industry brands assessed)
    BEST ALL-AROUND PERFORMANCE BRAND OF 2018: Mitsubishi
    BEST ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCE BRAND OF 2018: Tesla
    BEST ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE BRAND OF 2018: Mitsubishi
    BEST SOCIAL PERFORMANCE BRAND OF 2018: MINI
    MOST DISTINGUISHED BRAND OF 2018: Toyota"

    "BEST CARS OF 2018

    2018 ALL CARS (irrespective of class, 1,664 vehicles assessed)
    BEST ALL-AROUND PERFORMANCE CAR OF 2018: Toyota Prius Prime
    BEST ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCE CAR OF 2018: Toyota Prius Prime
    BEST ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE CAR OF 2018: Mitsubishi Mirage
    BEST 5 ALL-AROUND PERFORMANCE (SMALL CAR SEGMENT): Toyota Prius C, Ford Focus Electric, Mitsubishi Mirage, Chevrolet Spark, Toyota Yaris
    BEST 5 ALL-AROUND PERFORMANCE (LARGE CAR SEGMENT): Toyota Prius Prime, Hyundai IONIQ (Hybrid/Plug-in), Toyota Prius Eco, Nissan Leaf, Chevrolet Bolt"

    "2018 MINI-COMPACT CARS (106 vehicles assessed)
    BEST ALL-AROUND PERFORMANCE: Chevrolet Spark
    BEST ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCE: BMW i3"

    Here are the links to vehicles that actually did receive awards (none of them Fiat):
    https://www.automotivescience.com/co...ic-performance

    I even looked at other categories, wondering if it was listed there, but no cigar:

    https://www.automotivescience.com/co...s/2017-minivan
    https://www.automotivescience.com/co...nd-performance
    https://www.automotivescience.com/co...mini-crossover
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    Something is fishy here Chris. Why didn't you post the actual link, but instead a screen shot partially obscured by an arrow?

    Here IS the link to that particular category from their web site: https://www.automotivescience.com/co...ic-performance

    As you can see, not only is the page completely different appearing from your screen shot, but the actual page have photos of the winners. Which, to my original point, doesn't include a Fiat 500. Or, would the claim of an award to a Fiat 500L fall under the category of being another one of those 'alternate facts'?

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    Seriously?? I'm not sure how I should take that. I know how it sounds, though, and I'm not liking it. I guess it's a good thing I'm busy at work so am not going to think about it. There's nothing fishy:

    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...ience-group-30

    The is nothing obscured by the arrow. It was to help you find the page because you had a hard time finding it.
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    I don't see what the issue is here.

    https://www.automotivescience.com/pages/2018-study

    The page clearly lists the FIAT 500L as the Best Economic Performer in the Wagon class where it was chosen over 26 other vehicles. KellyfromVA, you are looking at the all cars (1664 vehicles regardless of class) results.

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    More to the point, this is an obtuse award at best. The criteria for winning ASG's awards are sketchy, even if the claim of winning isn't.

    The ‘Best All-Around Performance’ Car Available is the Mitsubishi Mirage, Apparently
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felnus View Post
    The page clearly lists the FIAT 500L as the Best Economic Performer in the Wagon class where it was chosen over 26 other vehicles. KellyfromVA, you are looking at the all cars (1664 vehicles regardless of class) results.
    But Chris' claim was the the Fiat 500L beat out several other brands. All the links I sent directly from the site, not through a third party paraphrasing another site, show other brands excel across the board. Mitsubishi (which is also a questionable choice), Tesla, Toyota, and even Mini, were sited and rated higher in several categories. To phrase it like a Fiat 500L somehow beat other brands like some Juggernaut, is in my view, a disingenuous claim.

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    It seems to me that the site is not updated. Here is where they mentioned the FIAT 500L:

    2018 STUDY
    2018 AUTOMOTIVE PERFORMANCE INDEX FINDINGS


    2018 WAGONS (27 vehicles assessed)

    BEST ALL-AROUND PERFORMANCE: Subaru Outback

    BEST ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCE: Volvo V60

    BEST ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE: Fiat 500L

    Here is the link: https://www.automotivescience.com/pages/2018-study

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