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    500t suspension mod list feedback wanted

    Looking for feedback on mod list below to improve my 500t’s suspension. Any downsides to this set up? Am I missing anything for the KYB’s to fit properly?

    In addition to the ST rear sway bar I recently ordered, I’m looking at the three mods below to round out my 2016 500t’s suspension. I currently have stock 16” wheels on 195 tires. Thanks!

    KYB Front & Rears

    Eibach Sportlines

    RRM Upper Chassis Braces
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    2016 FIAT 500T
    Koni Rear Yellows
    Abarth Front Struts
    500 Madness Springs
    ST Rear Anti-Sway Bar
    El Gato Lower Chassis Braces
    NEU-F Torque Arm Insert
    EC V2.1 Intake
    Forge BOV
    PTP Turbo Blanket
    Muffler Delete
    17 Abarth Wheels
    Bobs Trunk Strap

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    Those upgrades should make a noticeable difference.

    Going with better tires is another thing to consider, depending on what kind of driving you do.
    2013 Rosso Abarth with 61K miles, Koni yellow shocks, Madness springs, Neu-f rear sway bar, EBC Yellowstuff brake pads, DOT4 brake fluid, K&N air filter, autocross 17 inch Ciao Milano wheels with Bridgestone Potenza RE71R, daily wheels stock 16 inch Dunlop DZ102. 2017 1st place HS Tidewater Sports Car Club: 2016-2015 1st Place TSCC GS class; 2014-2013: 2nd place in SCCA South Carolina Region G Stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Nixon View Post
    Those upgrades should make a noticeable difference.

    Going with better tires is another thing to consider, depending on what kind of driving you do.
    Thanks for the feedback. Driving is mostly commuting with some backroad weekend driving. No autocross, no track time (yet). Is it possible to fit 205s on stock 16s? Wider?
    2016 FIAT 500T
    Koni Rear Yellows
    Abarth Front Struts
    500 Madness Springs
    ST Rear Anti-Sway Bar
    El Gato Lower Chassis Braces
    NEU-F Torque Arm Insert
    EC V2.1 Intake
    Forge BOV
    PTP Turbo Blanket
    Muffler Delete
    17 Abarth Wheels
    Bobs Trunk Strap

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    I have the RRM rear sway bar and that made a huge improvement to the handling. Koni yellow front struts also made a nice improvement. I would suggest El Gato lower chassis braces over the upper braces as the lower braces already there are very weak and the upper braces will not make much of a difference in this car. Putting the lower braces on significantly enhanced steering response. I still plan on replacing the rear shocks with Koni yellows but really the suspension is about perfect as is, reminding me of my old VW GTI.
    2013 Fiat 500T Rosso
    RRM rear sway bar, Koni front struts, El Gato front chassis braces, 500Madness GoPedal, NeuF muffler delete, EC V4.1 intake, Gofastbits DV+, RRM lightweight crankshaft pulley, LED interior lights.

    2016 Fiat 500X Pop Arancio
    500Madness GoPedal, custom Abarth style exhaust (resonator/muffler delete.), Gofastbits DV+, RRM lightweight crankshaft pulley, RRM Ultimate tuner, LED interior lights.

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    I have Neu-F springs on my 2017 Abarth and chose them over the Eibach Sportlines. The Koni yellows have been a pleasant surprise as well.

    The only downside you'll find is an overall harsher ride due to the shorter travel distance on the new shocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carfreak09 View Post
    I have the RRM rear sway bar and that made a huge improvement to the handling. Koni yellow front struts also made a nice improvement. I would suggest El Gato lower chassis braces over the upper braces as the lower braces already there are very weak and the upper braces will not make much of a difference in this car. Putting the lower braces on significantly enhanced steering response. I still plan on replacing the rear shocks with Koni yellows but really the suspension is about perfect as is, reminding me of my old VW GTI.
    Thanks for the feedback. Will look into El Gato. Any thoughts on using KYB’s front and rear? The price difference seems worth considering being that there are a few on the forum mentioning they fit well.
    2016 FIAT 500T
    Koni Rear Yellows
    Abarth Front Struts
    500 Madness Springs
    ST Rear Anti-Sway Bar
    El Gato Lower Chassis Braces
    NEU-F Torque Arm Insert
    EC V2.1 Intake
    Forge BOV
    PTP Turbo Blanket
    Muffler Delete
    17 Abarth Wheels
    Bobs Trunk Strap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad3060 View Post
    I have Neu-F springs on my 2017 Abarth and chose them over the Eibach Sportlines. The Koni yellows have been a pleasant surprise as well.

    The only downside you'll find is an overall harsher ride due to the shorter travel distance on the new shocks.
    I think I could live with that downside. I used to drive an 87 Jeep Wrangler that felt like it was on rails.
    2016 FIAT 500T
    Koni Rear Yellows
    Abarth Front Struts
    500 Madness Springs
    ST Rear Anti-Sway Bar
    El Gato Lower Chassis Braces
    NEU-F Torque Arm Insert
    EC V2.1 Intake
    Forge BOV
    PTP Turbo Blanket
    Muffler Delete
    17 Abarth Wheels
    Bobs Trunk Strap

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfz View Post
    Thanks for the feedback. Will look into El Gato. Any thoughts on using KYB’s front and rear? The price difference seems worth considering being that there are a few on the forum mentioning they fit well.
    I've got KYBs in the rear with Konis in the front. The adjustability on the front shocks is certainly a nice feature to have, especially if you're considering auto-x or track days in the future. I was actually going to go with the kyb fronts, but they were backordered at the time, and honestly I'm kinda glad I was forced into the konis. I live in a city with terrible potholed roads so it's nice to run a bit softer for daily driving and the winter months, with the option to tighten things up when it's needed.
    2013 500t
    oft stg2, catless downpipe, 200cell hfc, center exit exhaust, custom short-ram intake, corsaforza fmic, gfb dv+, catch can, poly filled motor/trans mounts, nuef ss adapter, koni front/kyb rear shocks, madness agr springs, vertical chassis braces, rrm comp rear sway bar, ebc reds, mudflaps, roof rack, 180w led lightbar

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfz View Post
    Thanks for the feedback. Will look into El Gato. Any thoughts on using KYB’s front and rear? The price difference seems worth considering being that there are a few on the forum mentioning they fit well.
    Depends on whether you want adjustability. I went with Koni because most people raved about them and I feel their quality may be better, but I don't have any experience with KYB. I personally run the front struts at their firmest setting and actually found the ride to be better then stock (remember I have stock springs). Rebound is so much more solid, making the car feel more planted to the road while taking away the sometimes jarring crashiness of the stock struts. The ride is just so much more refined while handling turns like it's on rails.

    You wouldn't believe how weak the original lower braces are. You can literally bend those stamped steel pieces by hand. Replacing those with more solid El Gato or RRM braces make the steering sharper and super quick.
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    2013 Fiat 500T Rosso
    RRM rear sway bar, Koni front struts, El Gato front chassis braces, 500Madness GoPedal, NeuF muffler delete, EC V4.1 intake, Gofastbits DV+, RRM lightweight crankshaft pulley, LED interior lights.

    2016 Fiat 500X Pop Arancio
    500Madness GoPedal, custom Abarth style exhaust (resonator/muffler delete.), Gofastbits DV+, RRM lightweight crankshaft pulley, RRM Ultimate tuner, LED interior lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfz View Post
    Thanks for the feedback. Driving is mostly commuting with some backroad weekend driving. No autocross, no track time (yet). Is it possible to fit 205s on stock 16s? Wider?
    Yes, you can go up 10-20 mm in width on the stock wheels, but remember to adjust the sidewall down 5 mm for every increase of 10mm in width to keep the speedometer accurate. 205/40r16 would replace a 195/45r16.
    2013 Fiat 500T Rosso
    RRM rear sway bar, Koni front struts, El Gato front chassis braces, 500Madness GoPedal, NeuF muffler delete, EC V4.1 intake, Gofastbits DV+, RRM lightweight crankshaft pulley, LED interior lights.

    2016 Fiat 500X Pop Arancio
    500Madness GoPedal, custom Abarth style exhaust (resonator/muffler delete.), Gofastbits DV+, RRM lightweight crankshaft pulley, RRM Ultimate tuner, LED interior lights.

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