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    I'm new to the forum, so Hiya!
    I'm kinda jealous - y'all seem to have Abarths? (My first Fiat experience was a 500 Abarth from the junkyard when I was 12 in 1965. He swapped the Abarth engine for a regular one and rebuilt it. It was the first car he let me help with - while he held the engine, I crawled under & tightened the bolts. It had a kph speedometer - in the TN mountains. When loaded, it wouldn't go up the hill at the end of the street. By loaded I mean, my 150lb dad, my pregnant 250lb mom, my scrawny 9yr old brother, me (not a little girl), my dad's brother & his wife who were both over 6' and 200 lbs.)
    I'm adjusting from a 2003 Passat Turbo to a 2017 500L Trekking as my daily car. I've had it about 5 weeks and put 2000+ miles on it. I have a leadfoot (red lines don't scare me) and have avg'd 35-36 mpg with a combination of highway & big city stop'n go in traffic but Hubby (who drives like an old woman) has shared the highway driving so it's not as good as it should be. I use onboard calculator as well as a record book.
    Oh, and I've used nitrogen in my tires for over 10 years, almost never have a tire pressure issue, and get 80%+ of the rated miles out of my tires (where avg here is 50-60% - brands won't stand behind their warrantees here due to the road composition).

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    I get 34-36 mpg in my 2018 Pop and 32-34 in my 2018 Abarth. Both manual transmissions. That is primarily highway (fast-80-85 mph) with hilly terrain between ABQ NM and Santa Fe NM. Just love Fiats!! More fun to drive than about any other cars I've owned (and I am a major "car person" who trades cars once a year). Sure hope they hang in there in the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiat500USA View Post
    Welcome to the forum. I also figure it out the manual way. There is usually a difference between the calculated and old fashioned way. For myself, it is somewhere around 1 or 2 mpg difference. I stopped paying attention to the difference, but from what I remember mine varied depending on driving conditions (highway or city, for example). One technique that may make help is to get gas at the same time of day using the same pump. That may tighten the differences up. It will also make your calculations more accurate as there are differences between pumps.
    Hi. When you say the "manual" way, I assume that means dividing total miles driven on the Trip A display for example (if zeroed at last fillup) and dividing by gallons used at fill-up? That's what I've been doing, and in my manual 2017 Abarth with 17" wheels, inflated to the B pillar spec and using 91 octane, my last MPG was 22.3! And that's with very little SPORT driving. Is the secret moving through the gears quickly and not revving too high in any, one gear? This is worse than my 2007 Mazda 3 2.3 litre automatic, which was fairly lousy on mileage. I was hoping for numbers closer to 37-30 without SPORT mode. No where close.
    Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvmaster View Post
    Hi. When you say the "manual" way, I assume that means dividing total miles driven on the Trip A display for example (if zeroed at last fillup) and dividing by gallons used at fill-up? That's what I've been doing, and in my manual 2017 Abarth with 17" wheels, inflated to the B pillar spec and using 91 octane, my last MPG was 22.3! And that's with very little SPORT driving. Is the secret moving through the gears quickly and not revving too high in any, one gear? This is worse than my 2007 Mazda 3 2.3 litre automatic, which was fairly lousy on mileage. I was hoping for numbers closer to 37-30 without SPORT mode. No where close.
    Any ideas?

    Driving environment is a big factor. Do you drive in a city? Stop and go traffic? Let the engine idle while parked and waiting? All these things add up especially the stop and go.

    Try driving with the instantaneous mpg display on and see if you can keep the mpg up above a certain point. I'l look at my average mpg and then when I drive I'll try to keep the instantaneous reading higher than the average to boost my mileage. It will give you an idea of how to drive to get better mileage. A quick hint is to short shift around 2-2100 rpm as long as you aren't lugging the engine. Try to stay off boost, too. Driving in the highest gear the car will pull will bump your mileage, but just don't lug the engine. Try that and see if you can bump it up a few mpgs. I bet you can.
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    Thanks. I tend to keep a eye on the real-time bar. Driving is mixed, freeways and surface streets, but probably is 60-40 freeway. However, the freeway trips aren’t long, five-six miles, then onto the surface side roads. SoCal, so reasonable hills here and there. I tend to use climate control as opposed to outside air. I only idle the engine when starting and ending my drives, for 30 seconds, one minute to prepare the turbo as was instructed here, but that’s it.
    I’ll focus on the rpm’s for now...

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    I have a 2016 Abarth 5 speed manual, retired and live in a small city. Most of my driving is in the city and rarely use the sport button. I find the increased sensitivity is annoying in city driving. Yearly mileage is around 2300

    miles and read threads where people getting 30+ mpg. On the highway for trips I get 36 mpg, in the city its 25-26 mpg. Then I read on some Fiat site (maybe this one) where a driver said to shift no higher than 2500 rpm.

    I tried that and got 30.5 mpg. So that's my answer.

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    30.5 mpg in the city, shifting at 2500?

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    2017 POP, 1.4, automatic, 4K miles, 40PSI in tires, cold air kit, full synthetic oil, no turbo, 93 NON ETHANOL fuel (I am lucky to have this nearby) is getting 40+ MPG all the time. This includes some stop/go some 70+MPH, some 55+MPH 2 lanes, winding roads, hills, etc... If just 2 lane blacktop at 55MPH is over 45MPG.
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    Wow, I guess our little Abarth turbo eats up the fuel...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvmaster View Post
    30.5 mpg in the city, shifting at 2500?
    Short shifting makes a big difference in fuel economy for most cars. Traditional engines run more efficiently when the throttle valve is open (technically the MultiAir throttle valve behaves different than normal cars as it runs open a large portion of the time and the intake air is controlled by the intake valves) Getting into the highest gear the car can pull will boost your mpg. The ecoDrive program that came with my Prima analized my driving and suggested I shift sooner (it actually gave me the rpm points to shift). In the normally aspirated Prima, the shift points were 2000 rpm or a touch lower(!). My abarth doesn't come with the program (and sadly I don't think Fiat USA supports ecoDrive anymore), but I found my Abarth gets better gas mileage if I shift later than my Prima - somewhere just over 2,000 rpm. Maybe that keeps the boost level at check - don't know. I live on a steep mountain and there are some hills in my commute. On the hills I shift around 2,500 - 2,600 rpm and use a light pedal. Coming home on the mountain I stay in third and around 35 mph.

    Here are a few stories on Fiat's ecoDrive: http://www.fiat500usa.com/search/label/eco%3ADrive
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