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Thread: My 2013 500e build - Chapter 1 - Weight removal

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    Quote Originally Posted by zonker View Post
    I know it's controversial, but the way I look at it my economical transportation option would be a bicycle or a motorcycle, and even with all what I have removed I am sure this car is more safe than that. In addition, I drive a 1974 Fiat X1/9, and it's pretty safe for it's era but I'm sure this de-bumpered Fiat 500 is safer than that too.

    It's all relative.
    If you're going to remove crash protection, then you need to add proper safety equipment for the passengers.
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    I'll hand them a pillow and have them hold on tight. This is my commuter car so 99 percent of the time I will be the driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddySRT View Post
    That Bumper Support is very critical for structural support to the front end.
    If it is indeed structural (I don't know), then the frame will lose some rigidity and adversely affect handling.

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    The radiator support is held on by the same bolts that the bumper support is hung by - so some of the bolts need to be reinstalled after removal of the support. The car handles fine, even with the high inflation pressures (44 psi) and the reduction of toe in at the rear. If anything, the car feels more responsive to steering input and probably turn even better times on an autocross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zonker View Post
    The radiator support is held on by the same bolts that the bumper support is hung by - so some of the bolts need to be reinstalled after removal of the support. The car handles fine, even with the high inflation pressures (44 psi) and the reduction of toe in at the rear. If anything, the car feels more responsive to steering input and probably turn even better times on an autocross.
    All of those core support bolts need to be installed. It connects the frame rails.

    The car is going to handle like **** without the rails connected. You are going to cause the front frame rails/ suspension to flex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddySRT View Post
    All of those core support bolts need to be installed. It connects the frame rails.

    The car is going to handle like **** without the rails connected. You are going to cause the front frame rails/ suspension to flex.
    And yet it still handles well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zonker View Post
    And yet it still handles well.
    Keep telling yourself that. When your tires are ruined, or your strut towers start cracking... it will be your fault, not FCA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddySRT View Post
    Keep telling yourself that. When your tires are ruined, or your strut towers start cracking... it will be your fault, not FCA.
    You mean I must be personally accountable for my actions?

    Don't worry, I am. And if any of your doomsday attributes rear their ugly head, I'll be sure to post that so you can say I told you so.
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    Lets not fight boys. As he said, its gotta be safer than riding a motorcycle, and im sure he knows that if something cracks or bends because he removed structural support, he caused it and warranty wont cover it.

    My personal concern was that he realized the removal of certain things could cause the car to not protect him as it was designed, and he clearly indicated he was aware of that. There are alot of stupid people out there who do things and have no clue the negative effects that might be caused and I wanted to make sure he wasnt one of them.

    I, for one, wish him well and hope the project turns out as he hopes it will. I'd be very interested in an update when its all done, and see how much, if any, milage or performance gains he has acheived.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Blond View Post
    I, for one, wish him well and hope the project turns out as he hopes it will. I'd be very interested in an update when its all done, and see how much, if any, milage or performance gains he has acheived.
    Thank you DB. I'm just getting started too... I plan on removing the airbag equipped seats and putting in lightweight aftermarket seats. Oh the carnage! I'll have to put warning labels on the sun visors!

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