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    Re71r as a daily tire?

    So I'll be getting new wheels(16x7) and tires(205/45/16) for the daily Abarth very soon. I'll be autocrossing it hopefully 5-6 times this year. I'm just trying to figure out how long everyone's tires are lasting them, the amount of autocross sessions and then miles overall. Mainly my choice will be between the Re71r or Firestone Indy500. I would prefer the Re71r but am not sure how long that would last me under these combined conditions. Also how's the road noise and comfort compared to a less extreme tire like the Bridgestone Re760s that I have on my stock 17s now. I'm in central Florida and it does rain a lot here too.

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    First off, welcome to the forum, and congrats on the Abarth!

    I've used the RE71Rs since the start of 2016 for autocross, so I can share one driver's experience anyway. First off, this is still the most popular tire in autocross around the country, so I'd say they are worth the money if you are serious about the sport. I've competed at a lot of events last year and this year, and everyone I talk to is happy with them. Several events I've driven were very wet, and no issues with water on this tire.

    My Bridgestones are on an extra set of wheels, so I take them off and on for events, but still drive to and from some events, or leave them on the car for some daily driving. I have no issues with road noise, I don't think they're any different than any other tire in that regard.

    2 of my tires I used last year I replaced to kick things off this year, mostly because they were on the front for a day of track driving on a very abrasive surface, so those two tires lasted 3800 miles total, which included at least 12 autocross events, some with 2 drivers (more runs, more wear), and that one track day. My opinion: a full season of events is worth it.

    2 of my tires used all last year are still going strong this year, so I'm looking to get 2 full autoX seasons plus some other driving on them. These two Bridgestones now have about 4400 miles, and have enough tread to be fine, so I'm using them on the rear for autoX this year, which adds up to another 5 events so far, plus a very gruelling two day HPDE event with 9 lapping sessions.

    To sum up from me, its the tire to get for Autocross, they should last a good amount of time if you only autocross a few times a year, no issues as a daily driver. Since you said you're getting new wheels, your other option is to keep the current wheels and have a set of tires just for autocross.

    We also have a thread about the Bridgestones in the autocross section, and I'm sure other folks on the forum have ideas for tires too.
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    Thank you! The Bridgestones are definitely worth the extra money. What I think I'll end up doing is getting another set of wheels like you have and using those as a dedicated track set. My current wheels are the stock 17s and I'm not sure if they'd work as an autocross wheel with the Re71r's in a 205/45/17. Especially since I'm lowered on BC Racing coilovers, I would rub a lot wouldn't I?

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    My car is not lowered so I don't know how that would work out.

    Forum member Abarth&911 had an Abarth that he lowered and ran in Street Touring, although I don't know if those were 16 or 17 inch wheels. You might send him a note and ask.
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    I'm running the RE71Rs but I don't daily my car so I can't exactly speak to how long they will last doing both. The UTQG rating on the RE71R is 200, but studies have found that it should be more like 140. IIRC the UTQG rating specifies how long a tire will last under normal conditions, 200 would be expected to achieve 20,000 miles. Since the tire should probably be rated at 140 or 14,000 miles, you can expect after 6 autocross runs and proper rotation, you won't get more than that. Just a thought.
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    For what it's worth, the UTQG rating is not standardized, and there is no verification of whatever the manufacturers say their tires number should be, so I think you can just throw out any predictions for how long they last! The best example was a different brand tire that was great for autocross a few years ago, rated at 140 when that was the limit for SCCA Street/Stock class. The next year the minimum was 200, so before long this brand was selling the same tire, magically now rated at 200 instead of 140.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Nixon View Post
    For what it's worth, the UTQG rating is not standardized, and there is no verification of whatever the manufacturers say their tires number should be, so I think you can just throw out any predictions for how long they last! The best example was a different brand tire that was great for autocross a few years ago, rated at 140 when that was the limit for SCCA Street/Stock class. The next year the minimum was 200, so before long this brand was selling the same tire, magically now rated at 200 instead of 140.
    That's true, any manufacturer can place a UTQG rating on their tire and there is no standard body to confirm it. I believe RE71Rs fall under that same category. We call them "cheater tires" for that very reason lol. That's why I would err on the more conservative rating and hope the manufacturer was sincere in their original rating before the rules changed
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    An old thread but I can help update with my choices for track tires. I run HPDE SCCA and NASA at Thunderhill, Sonoma, and Laguna Seca, CA. Since its only HPDE in the summer, I use Yokohama S Drive 205 40r17. Its rated 300 UTQG, and I keep up with a buddy of mine who runs Toyo Proxes at 200 UTQG. For street use and all around tire during the year, plus winters in Reno, I use the Cooper ZEON RS rated at 500 UTQG but they stick like glue on the windy Sierra Mountains roads, and on track just cant hold the high speed short radius turns the way the Yokos do.

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