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    Hate to engage in thread necromancy ... but....

    I have TWO Fiats.... a 500 Abarth 5 speed and a 500 Turbo auto.

    This thread is correct - there's definitely a huge problem with the automatic cars - at least some of them.

    My Abarth averages 24mpg in mostly city driving. I hammer it constantly, burn rubber off the tires, redline it, you name it. It has a phase 2 tune (but got about the same mileage stock tune).

    My 500 Turbo? I baby the heck out of it and I still can't get more than 17mpg in the exact same driving conditions. Took the tune off to see if it helped - it didn't. Have gone over everything with a fine toothed comb. New oil, plugs, coils, FMIC, O2 sensors, all the typical parts swapping.

    Came here looking to see maybe if anyone had identified a common fault that causes this terrible mileage on the auto.

    It's pathetic.
    2015 Rosso Abarth - MAD FIAT - 5 Speed - Phase 2
    2015 Granito Lucente 500T - Proyecto Estupido (Salvage) - Auto - OFT Stage 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by aelfwyne View Post
    My 500 Turbo? I baby the heck out of it and I still can't get more than 17mpg in the exact same driving conditions. Took the tune off to see if it helped - it didn't. Have gone over everything with a fine toothed comb. New oil, plugs, coils, FMIC, O2 sensors, all the typical parts swapping.

    It's pathetic.
    I have a work colleague that drives a 2015 Abarth automatic. After seeing this topic re-ignited here, I asked him what he's been getting for fuel economy. He said the biggest difference seems to come with light throttle and avoiding application of boost. For example; my colleague said if he's accelerating onto the freeway under boost, and then maintains 5-10MPH over the speed limit, his Abarth gets about 24-26 MPG. If he takes two lane back roads, running no faster than say, 60MPH, he gets around 30-32MPH.
    Even my colleague isn't very impressed with the fuel economy, and believes the combination of crappy aerodynamics and too low-gearing to keep the RPM's high and in the powerband are the cause. The faster you try to push one of these cars through the air, the more drag is exhibited. We were sort of half-joking around to see if we could schedule some wind tunnel time at our Texas office to see how bad the cars really are. He would just have to drive his car to Texas, and I would have to call in some favors with the Techs to run some analysis.

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    I have a 2015 Abarth Cabrio with automatic. I have had my car since February of 2018. To date I have put a little over 11,000 miles on it and have logged every tank of gas I bought. 75% of my driving has been in city (Chattanooga) and my city average has been 24mpg. My Hwy mpg has been 32. I am running 16” wheels but will be changing to the Maserati 17” wheels next spring.

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    Just noticed this thread. I drive my '14 500C manual in a smallish city, moderate traffic, most trips no more than 15 miles or so, generally average barely below 37 mpg. When I took it to the mountains, averaged the same, up and back. Love this little enclosed go-kart!
    Never give in; never give out; never, Ever, EVER give up!

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    I have a 2016 Abarth automatic hatch. 205/40/17 P Zeros. Bought October 2018 with 900 miles. Now its at 10,500. I've added an ATM FMIC, EC intake and air filter. I always drive in sport mode, generally shift manually and make absolutely no effort to conserve fuel. I average 22mpg on my in town, busy traffic, daily stop and go commuting. I feed it 93 octane Chevron. I'm sure if I drove for economy I could get it to 30mpg in town, but I consider the extra fuel bill to be an entertainment expense I'm happy to pay.

    In the same driving conditions my sedately driven C5 Corvette gets 17 - 18 mpg.

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    My 2018 500L (same engine/transmission combo) is very thirsty for what it is. Even back roads to and from work it gets 27 mpg. If I go one way where I don't have to stop, only yield every turn, the car can get 30.7 mpg per my scangauge. My brother and I took a road trip to Roswell, NM from Georgia last year and it got to 33; it was 1300 miles each way on premium gas, and he was complaining about how we should have took his Nissan Versa (40 mpg on regular).

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    I have a 2012 500 pop with a manual 5 speed transmission. In town I average about 34 miles per gallon. On cross country trips on the highway with the air conditioning on and the cruise control set at 68mph I get about 45- 46 miles per gallon if I have a tail wind. I did replace the stock air filter with a drop in BMC cloth filter. It changed the induction sound and probably gave me an extra 2 mpg.

    Automatic trannys with torque converters are mileage killers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500Luigi View Post
    My 2018 500L (same engine/transmission combo) is very thirsty for what it is. Even back roads to and from work it gets 27 mpg. If I go one way where I don't have to stop, only yield every turn, the car can get 30.7 mpg per my scangauge. My brother and I took a road trip to Roswell, NM from Georgia last year and it got to 33; it was 1300 miles each way on premium gas, and he was complaining about how we should have took his Nissan Versa (40 mpg on regular).
    Your 500L is a larger vehicle, compared to the smaller 500. My little non turbo automatic 500 achieve exactly, the fuel Economy. Fiat claims. That’s average milage, not Instant economy. 9 years of ownership. Check out this site. For what other owners, are actual getting.

    https://www.fueleconomy.gov/


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    Quote Originally Posted by smark View Post
    Your 500L is a larger vehicle, compared to the smaller 500. My little non turbo automatic 500 achieve exactly, the fuel Economy. Fiat claims. That’s average milage, not Instant economy. 9 years of ownership. Check out this site. For what other owners, are actual getting.

    https://www.fueleconomy.gov/


    Even using the EPA figures, the difference between the auto normally aspirated 500 and the manual 500 is huge. That's 6mpg difference on the highway, about 20% reduction in economy. In the real world, I am getting 45mpg on the highway easily. If you are only getting 34 mpg on the highway, that means I have a 35% improvement in highway fuel economy.

    That is huge!

    TEdolph

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    The 5 speed 500 manual transmission only achieves maybe 3-4 mpg better. No 500 is performing fuel economy of the best hybrids out there.
    Here are sample of actual manual transmission 500 owners.

    https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymo...Fiat_500.shtml

    https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Powe...Fiat&model=500
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