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    Quote Originally Posted by smark View Post
    The 5 speed 500 manual transmission only achieves maybe 3-4 mpg better. No 500 is performing fuel economy of the best hybrids out there.
    Here are sample of actual manual transmission 500 owners.

    https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymo...Fiat_500.shtml

    https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Powe...Fiat&model=500
    The EPA sticker highway estimate for my 500 POP is 40mpg. Yours is 34mpg. That is 6 mpg more than yours. That is a 20% increase.

    In the real world, I have a 12 mpg. improvement over your auto. That is a 33% increase.

    No matter how you look at it, the auto transmission sucks for gas mileage.


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    30.7 and 33 is pretty good mileage for a 500L, considering it's rated 30 MPG highway. Maybe it was the trip to Roswell, and the government using all that alien technology. <g>

    Ted and smark can both be correct. Tedolph did state "with a tail wind". I caught one of those days last summer. Cruising with the semi-trucks (60-65MPH), wind at my back, the meter said 44 MPG (actual MPG was 39.6). I took the same trip a week later and got 34. 2/3 of my miles are in town, so I feel good at 32.3 over the last 8700 miles, for a car rated 28/33/30.

    It's the Abarth owners who are usually surprised. They have the same EPA rating as the Pop. When you get "into the turbo" it can really suck down the fuel.

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    I can achieve 45-60 mpg, with a tail wind, crossing I-70. The flat Kansas Prairie. If you basic it on Instant mileage.

    When I purchase my 500, fuel economy. Wasn’t top on my list. My old smart cars Fuel economy was much better. When I was commuting back-and-forth to work. In stop and go traffic. A manual transmission, is plain horrible. Having owned many cars in the past with them. Sitting in traffic, for a couple hours. Clutch in and out, in and out. I’ll pass. Fuel prices at the moment here, are a buck 40. For 91 octane.

    All the fuel mpg, I’m not achieving at the moment with be made up in resale value. Automatic 500 vs a manual. Automatic transmission vehicles have a way better return.

    My little Honda CRX, actual on the highway, got 40-50 mpg. With its 5 speed transmission. It used Regular fuel.

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    That’s ok, not much is as boring to drive as a hybrid, so I’m good getting over 32 blasting back roads in my manual Abarth.
    Completely stock 2016 500 Abarth, Rhino & Nero

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    Quote Originally Posted by map View Post
    It's the Abarth owners who are usually surprised. They have the same EPA rating as the Pop. When you get "into the turbo" it can really suck down the fuel.
    Interestingly I find I do better in mileage in sport mode when I get to the hills. It allows me to stay in a higher gear, and I end up doing better mileage-wise. Except it’s really hard to take it back out of sport later....
    Completely stock 2016 500 Abarth, Rhino & Nero

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    Quote Originally Posted by smark View Post
    I can achieve 45-60 mpg, with a tail wind, crossing I-70. The flat Kansas Prairie. If you basic it on Instant mileage.
    I don't know if we have the same definition of instant mileage. If you are talking about the bar reading, mine jumps around too much to read. The mileage I was referring to (44 MPG) was the trip odometer as I pulled into the driveway. It had been showing 46, but dropped a couple going from the freeway to the house. But that was a fluke "perfect" day that might happen every couple years... and the odo was reading 10% high.

    Yeah, I know about the CRX. It could knock down mileage similar to the Geo. Unfortunately, it was also a lot of fun to drive, so there's that temptation to drive them harder.

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    My mom is only get 19 mpg with a town and highway mix with a LITTLE Italian Tuneup here and there. It's an Automatic. When we first bought the car used in 2016 (it's a MY2014 btw), it was at 13 mpg. It stayed below 24 mpg ever since (unless you go one a 150 mi road trip), the only way to cure it is to lug, and I mean LUG that little engine around in manual mode so the car doesn't shift above 2.5k. Do that for a month, and you'll maybe see 27 mpg. I'm so disappointed with that, we just changed the spark plugs because the car was running 3 cylinders for 24 hrs, so I hope that helps. WITHOUT SPORT MODE!
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