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    12VDC outlet

    The 12 VDC outlet in my 2012 Sport has never worked. Before the warranty expires, I had the dealership look at a few small issues with the car.

    They say the outlet doesn't operate since there is no relay.

    OK.

    I can't prove there was never a relay installed so I'll pay the few dollars for a new relay.

    The dealership is asking about $25 labor to install the relay.


    Before I pay the labor fee, I'd like to know where the outlet relay plugs in and how difficult that location is to access for a diy install. I would expect it to go into the fuse block which is pretty easy to reach.

    Thanks.

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    The Power Outlet / Cigar Lighter Front Console Fuse Location is in the underhood fuse/relay panel:
    F15 Fuse 15 A Blue - Cigar Lighter Front Console

    The relay is also located there and is in the T31 spot.

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    Hope this helps:

    from this thread: http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/showt...nt-fuse-layout



    A second fuse panel is located on the right side of the engine compartment, next to the battery. To access the fuses, press the release tabs and remove the cover.

    The ID number of the electrical component corresponding to each fuse can be found on the back of the cover.

    MAXI FUSES
    F01 60 Amp Blue - Body Controller
    F02 20 Amp Yellow -Audio Amplifier
    F03 20 Amp Yellow -Ignition Switch
    F04 40 Amp Orange -Anti-Lock Brake Pump
    F05 70 Amp Tan -Electric Power Steering
    F06 20 Amp Yellow -Radiator Fan - Single Speed
    F06 30 Amp Green -Radiator Fan - Low Speed
    F07 40 Amp Orange -Radiator Fan - High Speed
    F08 30 Amp Green -Blower Motor

    MINI FUSES
    F09 10 Amp Red - Powertrain
    F10 10 Amp Red - Horn
    F11 15 Amp Blue - Powertrain
    F11 10 Amp Red - Powertrain (Multiair – If Equipped)
    F14 5 Amp Tan - High beam (Shutter)
    F15 15 Amp Blue - Cigar Lighter
    F16 7.5 Amp Brown - Transmission
    F17 25 Amp White - Powertrain (Multiair – If Equipped)
    F17 15 Amp Blue - Powertrain
    F18 15 Amp Blue - Powertrain
    F18 5 Amp Tan - Powertrain (Multiair – If Equipped)
    F19 7.5 Amp Brown - Air Conditioning
    F20 15 Amp Blue - Heated Seats – If Equipped
    F21 15 Amp Blue - Fuel Pump
    F23 20 Amp Yellow - Anti-Lock Brake Valves
    F24 7.5 Amp Brown - Stability Control System
    F30 15 Amp Blue - Fog Lamps

    F82 30 Amp Green - Sunroof/Convertible Top (MAXIFUSE)

    F84 10 Amp Red - Transmission
    F85 15 Amp Blue - Rear Defroster, Heated Mirrors
    F87 5 Amp Tan - Lights
    F90 5 Amp Tan - Heated Mirrors

    Relays
    T02 20 Amp - Main Headlights
    T03 20 Amp - Buzzers/Horn
    T05 20 Amp - A/C Compressor
    T06 30 Amp - Low/One Speed Cooling Fan
    T07 50 Amp - High Speed Cooling Fan
    T08 30 Amp - Climate Control System Fan
    T09 30 Amp - Engine Control System (Main Relay)
    T10 20 Amp - Spare
    T14 20 Amp - Fog Lights
    T17 30 Amp - Fuel Pump
    T19 30 Amp - Rear Window Defogger
    T20 30 Amp - Start Prevention with Robotized Gearbox
    T30 50 Amp - Dualogic Gearboxinterlocking Pump
    T31 30 Amp - Front 12v Power Supply
    Consult your owners manual/repair manual to be certain this is accurate for your car. Use this information at your own discretion. Not responsible for any inaccuracy or issues arising from using this information.
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    Thanks! I didn't find this information in my owner's manual but, maybe I simply missed it.

    I'll give the panel a good lookin'at before I plug in the relay.

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    Could this relay be jumpered to make the outlet always-on, needed for a tow brake? Thanks.

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    For accessories you might consider tapping the battery posts using an after market relay. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Fuse the high current side at the + post. The low current side of the relay can be activated by tapping the fuse box at a connector that comes on when the key is switched on. Modern cars usually have close tolerances on loads, so I think this is safer than loading a circuit designed for temporary use (like the lighter).

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhicks View Post
    Could this relay be jumpered to make the outlet always-on, needed for a tow brake? Thanks.
    You might want to consult, a trailer supply company. They will be able to help you, with the best connection.

    https://www.curtmfg.com/all-products/2015/fiat/500/

    https://www.etrailer.com/vehicle/2016/Fiat/500

    https://www.uhaul.com/Trailer-Hitches/

    Good luck!
    Last edited by smark; 01-29-2021 at 06:08 PM.

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    Thanks guys.

    The brake makers assume that a connection will be run through the firewall but I haven't found a grommet. I'm not remotely confident enough to drill; this isn't like my old '71 Beetlebug. The tow brake is rated at 8A but only when actively braking, which will be rare. I just don't want to blow anything up.

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    I know this is an older thread, but it helped me just today. Thanks

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