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    Awesome. Sounds like a lot of fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmonz View Post
    We just arrived and checked into our hotel in Galveston, a little further away but the wife and kid can enjoy themselves while I have fun
    Welcome to my hometown, I drive a school bus in Galveston. Glad your getting our best weather. I've had 2 abarths, and looking at a yellow abarth or orange turbo. Love the abarth, but no answer me can ride with me, hardcore hard ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aelfwyne View Post
    There will only be 12 drivers tomorrow I think. Today there were only 7 of us. Lots of seat time.

    There were a couple of puddles.on the autocross course that made things interesting, but the road course was dry. You can push these cars a LOT harder than you think.
    OK now I'm curious, how was the food? Lol did you get to do the whole track or only a coned area in a parking lot? We're there manual abarths there? Lastly how was driving their stock abarths vs your modded one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsawgood View Post
    Welcome to my hometown, I drive a school bus in Galveston. Glad your getting our best weather. I've had 2 abarths, and looking at a yellow abarth or orange turbo. Love the abarth, but no answer me can ride with me, hardcore hard ride.
    Looks liked they used the whole 2.4 mile course. AT the last ADE at MSR last year they used about half the track which has on a single short straight. I was there this morning but got thrown out because I wasn't registered lol. Couldn't even stand under the tent at the autoX venue, I wandered up into the stands and a couple of the presenters were doing some slow laps on the whole track. I mean really slow. I guess they were getting some perameters for how the afternoon track sessions would go. I saw a BBQ catering truck there which is always a good sign. Looked and sounded like some pretty serious auto crossing going on. While I as there I was able to spend some time in the track garage with the boss Jim Berg. He's repairing our spec Miata racer which was in a shunt during a race last month. For those who live in this area, Jim has spent a lot of time on my Fiat and he is a wizard with wringing the best out of these little cars. He is a great resource for info on engine performance on the Abarth as well as setting up your car to handle at its best. Sorry I missed out on meeting you all but the Bondurant guys were pretty insistent that I was not part of the experience. I hope you had a great time on the track and come back. Yes, I can get you on the track, in YOUR car for a day for $50 or probably sneak you in.there are some fantastic cars and teams at MSR including the Effort Racing Porsche team which won their class at Daytona and Sebring and are expected to come in first at LeMans this year. CIao!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmonz View Post
    OK now I'm curious, how was the food? Lol did you get to do the whole track or only a coned area in a parking lot? We're there manual abarths there? Lastly how was driving their stock abarths vs your modded one?

    ~Jake
    Yeah, there were 2 autocross courses (very short), and then we did the main road course both morning and afternoon. The road course is 2-3 miles, and you can get up into 4th gear 3 times once you get the hang of it. By afternoon most of us were getting the cars pretty fast and loose, though the pro drivers were of course much faster. Most of the cars were manual - all of the ones we did on the first autoX and the road course were manual. The second autoX they gave us automatics - and it was terrible if you ask me because on the very tight autox, any time you were off the gas it felt like there was more of a lag before it got moving again because it had to downshift back to first. On a manual, the entire AutoX course would be first gear. I didn't try an automatic on the road course, as I said they were all manuals. I'm guessing if someone requested the automatic, they would have it for the road course if you wanted.

    It's hard to compare their stock Abarths and my modded one since I haven't driven my car in autoX or on the track. In the corners, of course, the grip was phenomenal. But I feel like in the straights 3rd gear wound out longer than I'm used to. Once I got back in my car, I was reminded even more how much more pull mine has through the gears. But on the street is nothing like the track, so it's really hard to compare. I have a feeling I'd be spinning tires a lot more in the corners.

    Also, one of the white cars is VERY loose. Most of the other cars were tight, but there was one white one that was just all over the track any time I took it out.

    As for the FOOD... Breakfast was a JOKE. Unless you like sugar and pastry, eat breakfast before you get there. But lunch was great - there bbq, links, potato salad, cole slaw, and way more than any of us could eat. They had drinks and snacks at every part of the event also if you needed a pick me up.

    Oh yeah, there was no video. I thought I had read somewhere that you'd get a thumb drive with video of your runs on it, but no video was taken. If you want video, you'll have to find someone to hold your phone for you and take it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gharbeson View Post
    Looks liked they used the whole 2.4 mile course. AT the last ADE at MSR last year they used about half the track which has on a single short straight. I was there this morning but got thrown out because I wasn't registered lol. Couldn't even stand under the tent at the autoX venue, I wandered up into the stands and a couple of the presenters were doing some slow laps on the whole track. I mean really slow. I guess they were getting some perameters for how the afternoon track sessions would go. I saw a BBQ catering truck there which is always a good sign. Looked and sounded like some pretty serious auto crossing going on. While I as there I was able to spend some time in the track garage with the boss Jim Berg. He's repairing our spec Miata racer which was in a shunt during a race last month. For those who live in this area, Jim has spent a lot of time on my Fiat and he is a wizard with wringing the best out of these little cars. He is a great resource for info on engine performance on the Abarth as well as setting up your car to handle at its best. Sorry I missed out on meeting you all but the Bondurant guys were pretty insistent that I was not part of the experience. I hope you had a great time on the track and come back. Yes, I can get you on the track, in YOUR car for a day for $50 or probably sneak you in.there are some fantastic cars and teams at MSR including the Effort Racing Porsche team which won their class at Daytona and Sebring and are expected to come in first at LeMans this year. CIao!
    Sucks they wouldn't let you hang out, man. He sent someone else packing earlier as well.

    Actually these were still the SRT guys - Bondurant will take over after this round. The SRT guys are NOT happy about the Bondurant takeover. The change is through all of the SRT products not just the Abarth, so they're basically being cut out of a big part of their jobs. There's one more weekend after this and they're done. Also, the Bondurant experience is only going to be at certain tracks, not all over the country. Basically you get a pass to the regular training school from what I understand, and it's a much more limited experience. That, and those who have already called in to arrange dates with them have reported they're receiving a hard upsell to buy an upgraded track package. Bondurant is basically seeing it as an upsell opportunity.

    George, it was good meeting you today - wish we could have chatted longer but they kept us pretty busy. Got quite a bit of track time today which was nice. Would love to take you up on the offer to visit the track as a guest. No way I could afford membership, but $50 is well worth it for the guest fee. Maybe we can get something set up in June or July, I'll have some free time then to play with.
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    I had a blast today, we had great instructors and the track was dry. Having access to the full track of MSR was awesome. I can't give to much feedback as this was my first track event but everyone there had a great time. We even had a guest decide to pay full price after watching half of the first event. We had fajitas today not BBQ so I'm sure they mix it up for the staff guys. Sad that FCA is ending this program.
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    Sounds like a good time and I bet track time was plentiful with so few participants. The Experience (...channeling Jimi Hendrix...) I had at Laguna Seca last year was great and I recall about 40 people were there on the day I attended. There were some fast guys in our group and though my days driving on a track were few I still managed to be in the top 4 or 5 in my group of 20 people. A bit proud of that...

    One thing that stood out to me was the level of talent in the instructor pool. There was a former Indy car driver and a some others who competed at high levels in sportscars and the like. I don't think I ever caught my instructors name for the road course part but he was fantastic and seemed to know Laguna Seca very well. Approaching the Corkscrew and only seeing the tops of a few trees and sky was ridiculous but set it up right and it is amazing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyTestarossa View Post
    Sounds like a good time and I bet track time was plentiful with so few participants. The Experience (...channeling Jimi Hendrix...) I had at Laguna Seca last year was great and I recall about 40 people were there on the day I attended. There were some fast guys in our group and though my days driving on a track were few I still managed to be in the top 4 or 5 in my group of 20 people. A bit proud of that...

    One thing that stood out to me was the level of talent in the instructor pool. There was a former Indy car driver and a some others who competed at high levels in sportscars and the like. I don't think I ever caught my instructors name for the road course part but he was fantastic and seemed to know Laguna Seca very well. Approaching the Corkscrew and only seeing the tops of a few trees and sky was ridiculous but set it up right and it is amazing!
    That's one regret. I was hoping they would do Laguna Seca again this year, and I was going to sign up the minute registration opened and road trip out there. But they didn't so I just did MSR Houston.
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    I had an absolute blast. Great group of people there hosting and driving. I down right sucked when I first went out on the autocross, but by the end of the day all the instructors said I was spot on and doing great. The automatics were fine to me. I didn't have any issue with it in the head to head. My only issue was I kept slamming my foot to the floor thinking there was a clutch lol. Breakfast was great as well, I like all that sugary stuff =] Overall it was a ton of fun and I'm really glad I didn't miss out on going. I will say I'm not an autox person. I much prefer the wide open road course. Autox is a bit too tight for my liking although the head to head was a lot of fun and everyone there made it a great atmosphere to be around. I can't wait to get back out to another track event. I took a bunch of photos and videos which I will post up either in here or in a dedicated thread.

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