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    Check function of your purge valve. When replacing one on another vehicle I came across information that they can cause a refusal to fill problem when bad.

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    Is the purge valve mounted to the tank, or near the canister?
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    Problem solved! After dealer told me I need a new gas tank ($1500 installed out of warranty) I decided to change the charcoal filter and all tubing that goes to it. Sure enough my tank is filling up successfully!

    Here's the parts I used obviously confirm part number for your car mine's a 2012.

    Part Number Part Name Price Quantity Total
    68233762AD Canister-Vapor $63.89 1
    68070718AA Tube-Fuel Vapor $11.86 1
    68080299AC Hose-Fuel Filler Vent $7.74 1
    52129436AB Seal $5.40 1

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    I am going to order the parts that Abarth5 listed... my issue got WORSE! I ran my tank all the way down, then tried one more time. Would not take 1 tenth of a gallon! The fuel started gushing back out of the filler, and now hours later is still at the filler mouth. After driving home! Strange issue, and one I have never experienced. I have owned lots of cars, all sorts, and have never seen this before!
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    Fiat 500 Abarth Rollover Valve Fix

    FIXED IT! Short version: I whacked the top of the rollover valve with a screwdriver handle! It is accessed under the rear seat, and had somehow tripped to block any escaping gas or liquid.

    Longer version: I removed the carbon canister and began troubleshooting. The canister was flowing well, so I eliminated that variable. Attached a Mityvac to the outlet hoses and applied vacuum. The main larger hose was blocked and would not flow air. I removed the hose from the rollover valve, accessed under the seat, and applied vacuum. Whacked the valve and heard it pop open! Buttoned everything up and went to the station and filled up without the pump clicking off! Victory! If it happens again, at least I know where the problem is...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bglz42 View Post
    FIXED IT! Short version: I whacked the top of the rollover valve with a screwdriver handle! It is accessed under the rear seat, and had somehow tripped to block any escaping gas or liquid.

    Longer version: I removed the carbon canister and began troubleshooting. The canister was flowing well, so I eliminated that variable. Attached a Mityvac to the outlet hoses and applied vacuum. The main larger hose was blocked and would not flow air. I removed the hose from the rollover valve, accessed under the seat, and applied vacuum. Whacked the valve and heard it pop open! Buttoned everything up and went to the station and filled up without the pump clicking off! Victory! If it happens again, at least I know where the problem is...
    blgz42 thanks so much for this info. can you share any pics of that the rollover valve looks like (or the assembly it's in or describe what I would look for). I'm thinking this may be a DIY for me (2012 500 Sport) and hoping to get all of the intel I can before I try. Do you have to take out the rear seat (back and bottom cushion/parts) to access? Any additional information would be really helpful. I'm guessing it makes sense for me to try the carbon canister first and then move on to rollover valve.

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    Blaked, I would go for the valve. Remove the two 16mm bolts on front of the rear reat and lift it. I did not remove it, just pushed it up. Take out the four screws holding the tank cover off, and pull it up. You will see the top of the assy. The big hose is the vent. Give the top a whack and see if it fixes it. Mine worked like a champ.

    BTW how many miles on your car? Mine is at 40k. The carbon canister was as clean as the Pope!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bglz42 View Post
    Blaked, I would go for the valve. Remove the two 16mm bolts on front of the rear reat and lift it. I did not remove it, just pushed it up. Take out the four screws holding the tank cover off, and pull it up. You will see the top of the assy. The big hose is the vent. Give the top a whack and see if it fixes it. Mine worked like a champ.

    BTW how many miles on your car? Mine is at 40k. The carbon canister was as clean as the Pope!
    Holy crap. I registered just to reply on this thread and thank EVERYONE who has posted for the tips. I started having this issue on my 2012 500c Lounge Convertible, just shy of 44k miles and was already well out of warranty. I can confirm what maverick900 said about the Service Manager @ the Austin, TX dealer. I purchased this car used from that dealer in 2015, had a few issues fixed under warranty but as the original warranty drew to a close, the DSM started arguing with me on things. They were small and I was sick of dealing with him so didn't push it. But yeah, he's not a good guy.

    But the Austin Fiat dealer isn't the issue here...the issue here is that getting to the top of the tank and giving it a couple of taps WORKED! I was super skeptical, but I tapped it a few times with a rubber mallet and on the third tap I heard the distinctive sound of breaking a seal of something under vacuum, that 'ffffFFFTTTT!!" sound. Drove it up to the corner gas station and it filled without issue. Sounds like there is some issue that is common to this valve. So glad I read this thread. Thank you everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfistodactyl View Post
    Holy crap. I registered just to reply on this thread and thank EVERYONE who has posted for the tips. I started having this issue on my 2012 500c Lounge Convertible, just shy of 44k miles and was already well out of warranty. I can confirm what maverick900 said about the Service Manager @ the Austin, TX dealer. I purchased this car used from that dealer in 2015, had a few issues fixed under warranty but as the original warranty drew to a close, the DSM started arguing with me on things. They were small and I was sick of dealing with him so didn't push it. But yeah, he's not a good guy.

    But the Austin Fiat dealer isn't the issue here...the issue here is that getting to the top of the tank and giving it a couple of taps WORKED! I was super skeptical, but I tapped it a few times with a rubber mallet and on the third tap I heard the distinctive sound of breaking a seal of something under vacuum, that 'ffffFFFTTTT!!" sound. Drove it up to the corner gas station and it filled without issue. Sounds like there is some issue that is common to this valve. So glad I read this thread. Thank you everyone!
    I've registered to say the same things: the Austin FIAT dealership should be the last resource for your car, and the described method worked for me too (no "under vacuum" sound, but a few taps with the 16 mm wrench were enough). Thank you all!

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