500T Vs Abarth

[bobbinator]

I am willing to spend 4k to be me not to be wanna be.

[WalkinTalkinStephenHawkin]

Hmmm your Car cost 11k I got mine for 13k out the door with a 100k warranty... Then I spent 2k on Mods (second hand for most I'll admit). Brings me to 15k total. As you stated your thinking about 4k in mods assuming you buy new... looks like we spent the same amount of money on our cars. As others said though were all same team... It's the Fiesta st and the Mini s that I dislike and the Prius....

I got lucky with my 2013 500T for 11000. They range from 11000-12500.... You bought a Abarth for 13000? and how many miles is on it???

[WalkinTalkinStephenHawkin]

I am willing to spend 4k to be me not to be wanna be.

Wanna be???? Pretty sure anyone that buys an Abarth is a wanna be lol. Takes a real tuner to take the down version and mod it... Pretty easy when fiat gives 3 grand worth of parts to start with and they aren't even high performance parts lol... I rather just buy the suspension kit, tune, and wheels that I wanted and not made by fiat.. Always thought fiat stood for Found in a Trash but after owning one I love it

[gfurneri]

I got lucky with my 2013 500T for 11000. They range from 11000-12500.... You bought a Abarth for 13000? and how many miles is on it???

I got it last year in November with just over 30k on the clock. Has everything you need just no sunroof or stripes which is what I wanted, because I wanted to mod the heck out of it. Those turbo head and tail lights though if you ever want to trade...

[tknospdr]

I am willing to spend 4k to be me not to be wanna be.

Can't we all just get along??

[peerless1]

you guys are funny everyone knows the 500L is where its at. turbo and 4 doors. ultra sleeper status lmao

[WalkinTalkinStephenHawkin]

Can't we all just get along??

Hit that one right on the nail..but 13000 for a Abarth is a good deal. That warranty will be nice though with 30000 mileage... What are you at now?? Call some studios and see which ones will work on it with engine mods. Ill be taking mine 20 miles farther than the studio down the road just because of the people working there.

[gfurneri]

Hit that one right on the nail..but 13000 for a Abarth is a good deal. That warranty will be nice though with 30000 mileage... What are you at now?? Call some studios and see which ones will work on it with engine mods. Ill be taking mine 20 miles farther than the studio down the road just because of the people working there.

I have a 100k warranty, and Fremont CA Fiat does not really care if you have mods. I do most of the work my self with a lot of help from guys in this forum. I just hit 56k I have a hell of a commute and its my daily. You will like it here lots of info and lots of good people. When I grenade the engine ill let fiat handle that one... Post some pics of your ride would love to see it. The turbo is a good car.

[gfurneri]

you guys are funny everyone knows the 500L is where its at. turbo and 4 doors. ultra sleeper status lmao

hey man that 500L is a great car with lots of room.. There is a guy that ran straight pipes on his 500l and it sounds 100% like an Abarth.

[opiateESP]

It is and it isn't the same. Think of the 500T as a Sport with more power. As everyone knows it uses the same engine and trans as the Abarth, but with the suspension of the Sport. Obviously, everything could be changed over to Abarth specs, but the cars do have quite a few unique differences that would need to be addressed.

Besides the engine calibrations and the trim changes, here are some other differences between the 500 Abarth and the 500T:

• 40 percent stiffer spring rate and 0.6- inch (15 mm) lower ride height.
• Abarth-designed cast iron front-lower control arms for improved lateral stiffness.*
• Increased negative camber to -1.5 degrees.
• Dual-valve Frequency Selective Damping (FSD) KONI front Struts.
• 40 percent more torsionally rigid rear axle with strengthened coil-spring supports.
• A 0.87-inch (22 mm) Abarth-specific solid rear-stabilizer bar.
• 20 percent stiffer rear springs with 0.6-inch (15 mm) lower ride.
• Abarth features a 15.1:1 (up from 16.3:1) steering-gear ratio for 10 percent quicker steering.
• Uniquely tuned electronic power steering (EPS) calibration for increased steering response and feedback.
• Abarth-tuned ESC system features a three-mode calibration to maximize handling capabilities on and off the track. When ESC is selected from “On” to “Partial Off” or “Full Off” on the instrument panel, the 500 Abarth’s Torque Transfer Control (TTC) system maximizes throttle performance during on-throttle cornering.

*The 500T may also have the cast iron arms. Have to check.

The 500T has the control arms. The Abarth struts are super easy to attain. I got mine for free from a friend. Really, I think the parts that differentiate the cars is this list:

• 40 percent more torsionally rigid rear axle with strengthened coil-spring supports.
• A 0.87-inch (22 mm) Abarth-specific solid rear-stabilizer bar.
• Abarth features a 15.1:1 (up from 16.3:1) steering-gear ratio for 10 percent quicker steering.
• Uniquely tuned electronic power steering (EPS) calibration for increased steering response and feedback.
• Abarth-tuned ESC system features a three-mode calibration to maximize handling capabilities on and off the track. When ESC is selected from “On” to “Partial Off” or “Full Off” on the instrument panel, the 500 Abarth’s Torque Transfer Control (TTC) system maximizes throttle performance during on-throttle cornering.

You can use the axel from the Abarth if you're adventurous I reckon. The part is around $300-400. You could PERHAPS change the steering ratio as well. The key pieces of an Abarth you won't get are:

• Abarth features a 15.1:1 (up from 16.3:1) steering-gear ratio for 10 percent quicker steering. (This stays in because I'm not sure)
• Uniquely tuned electronic power steering (EPS) calibration for increased steering response and feedback.
• Abarth-tuned ESC system features a three-mode calibration to maximize handling capabilities on and off the track. When ESC is selected from “On” to “Partial Off” or “Full Off” on the instrument panel, the 500 Abarth’s Torque Transfer Control (TTC) system maximizes throttle performance during on-throttle cornering.

The 500T is in some ways more of a tuner car than the Abarth. The changes you make to the car are more dramatic because the bar starts lower. But no matter what it's not an Abarth. Once modded, it can be very good on a track as well, but stock for stock...

I just think of modded 500's like this:

Primarily into straight line drags? A 500T is a great option
Primarily a corner carver? Just buy an Abarth