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    I think some folks have the wrong idea about the GQ's suspension. The GQ and the Abarth Cabrio have identical suspension's INCLUDING SPRING RATES. Not many realize the Abarth Cabrio and the tin topped Abarth hatchback do NOT have the same springs.

    I'm guessing the cabrios use a softer spring because their chassis are less stiff due to the missing metal. Stiffer springs would mean more rattles on these cars.
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    I've got a GQ after trading my Abarth hardtop in.

    It's an Abarth through and through, complete with the turning radius of an aircraft carrier due to the bigger control arms.

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    Just as a heads up, the GQ exhaust is the same as the Abarth. As least the two I have in stock. We DID had a black one with a "sport muffler".

    If the window sticker says sport muffler, it's quiet. If it says "sport tuned dual exhaust", it's mufflerless like an Abarth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blown View Post
    Just as a heads up, the GQ exhaust is the same as the Abarth. As least the two I have in stock. We DID had a black one with a "sport muffler".

    If the window sticker says sport muffler, it's quiet. If it says "sport tuned dual exhaust", it's mufflerless like an Abarth.

    Good to know.

    The whole "GQ" thing is tacky as hell to me, but with the huge rebates it might be worth snagging one for the right buyer.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawnb View Post
    Good to know.

    The whole "GQ" thing is tacky as hell to me, but with the huge rebates it might be worth snagging one for the right buyer.....
    Let me ask, what about it do you see as tacky? Is it only the branding, the GQ badges?

    If the car came with the standard Abarth badges, without a trace of GQ on it, would you have liked it better?

    If it became a regular Abarth model available in addition to the current line up with the sport style seats, round steering wheel, with exhaust option to be quieter or louder, in manual or automatic, would it be acceptable?

    I don't mean to ask if you'd BUY it, but it you'd accept it as being an Abarth through and through?

    I think it would be a great option to have, and could expand the Abarth line to suit more of the public. An Abarth Lounge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andree View Post
    Let me ask, what about it do you see as tacky? Is it only the branding, the GQ badges?

    If the car came with the standard Abarth badges, without a trace of GQ on it, would you have liked it better?

    If it became a regular Abarth model available in addition to the current line up with the sport style seats, round steering wheel, with exhaust option to be quieter or louder, in manual or automatic, would it be acceptable?

    I don't mean to ask if you'd BUY it, but it you'd accept it as being an Abarth through and through?

    I think it would be a great option to have, and could expand the Abarth line to suit more of the public. An Abarth Lounge.

    The gq branding is tacky, the actual car is fine but not having the seats, and steering wheel would be a no go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawnb View Post
    The gq branding is tacky, the actual car is fine but not having the seats, and steering wheel would be a no go
    There's something weird about branding. Like with the Pink Ribbon edition, sure, it's totally cool that there is a donation made to research breast cancer. One could buy that car, that edition, and know they are helping support a cause. But sometimes it works the opposite way. Men can get breast cancer too. Maybe a man would like to purchase the vehicle, but he doesn't necessarily want pink stitching.

    I'm not a fan of GQ magazine. And I wouldn't support that brand. I wouldn't want that brand on my car. I'm not into sports, not into stereotypical portrayals of women...or of men. And I really don't need to know "How to grow a beard for the first time." LOL!!! I mean, really, guys, doesn't the hair just come out of your face? I didn't know it required lessons to grow a beard. Luckily, I'm a woman and thus far haven't sprouted facial hair requiring training, tips and tricks.

    It would be quick and easy to remove the majority of branding, like the exterior GQ. The seat back is something else, but at least it's not obvious.

    The actual car is fine, as you say. Definitely like the black/white interior styling, would totally go for the car in white. Love the sport seats and the regular steering wheel myself.

    If the car didn't have the sport seats and regular steering wheel, it's just a regular Abarth Cabrio. Which is already available. I'm trying to figure out if there is an audience receptive to an Abarth Lounge.

    I think I'd go for embroidering the Abarth scorpion on the upper seat area of the sport seats. Put the regular Abarth badges front and back. No side badge. And for the steering wheel, in the round form, a special center cap that is also just the scorpion logo. Like the center cap of the larger optional wheels. Subtle. A bit more subtle than the current regular Abarth.

    I like asking questions and tossing out ideas for comment. Fiat probably reads some of this. Maybe. And if there is demand for something, wouldn't it be nice if they could make it for us? They aren't going to know what we like and don't like or even why we don't like something, if we don't tell them.

    I look at the rear end of the white Abarth Cabrio in the gallery on the Fiat site and say "YES YES YES":
    http://www.fiatusa.com/en/abarth/gallery/

    But my back and neck say "NO NO NO" to the race inspired seats. It's gorgeous, but my body can't handle it.

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    Just to confirm on a few things with this thread. We purchased two of the GQs (sold the Gucci Cabrio and "All Dolled Up"). Here are the differences between the GQ and Abarth Cabrio:

    1.) Suspension (FSD Struts, shocks, springs AND rear torsion bar) are exactly the same as the Abarth Cabrio
    2.) The inside is different: Sport style seats, round steering wheel, brushed metal accents instead of chrome, matching color matte dash as opposed to gloss, regular parking brake assembly as opposed to a black leather with red stitching, black stitching on the instrument cluster cover instead of red, black stitching on the shift knob instead of red.
    3.) Exterior wise it has the sport turbo Fiat badging, black trimmed lights, 16" sport wheels with a red interior rim.
    4.) The exhaust either came with a sport style dual MUFFLER or sport race exhaust (same as Abarth). It was hit or miss which one it came with.
    5.) There were only two options for the GQ. Base model GQ came with the Alpine Stereo and manual AC controls. No heated seats. However, the plug for the Beats sub is there. The second option is Beats subwoofer/amp and auto climate control with heated seats.
    6.) It doesn't come with the Abarth track experience but they do send you an "Abarth" welcome packet in the mail with scorpion stickers.
    7.) When you purchase the car, the VIN says "Fiat Abarth"
    8.) The engine cover is from the Sport Turbo

    Hope this helps anyone that has any questions on the difference. I have confirmed all of this by taking apart both of them as we are prepping our new fleet for the Spring season (which we will of course unveil sometime in April).

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    NGen, how are you liking the brushed chrome?

    The Gucci Lounge in white came with brushed chrome accents, whether it was a hardtop or convertible. Including the bumperettes.

    My brother brought up a good point. He's logged over 600,000 miles driving, traveling for pleasure, not work related. And there are times that the regular chrome will catch the sun just right and get you in the eye.

    I don't mind a chrome flash around town, because I'll be hitting another turn or curve in a few moments. But if you're on a long driving trip, and on a road that is straight...for hours...you get that chrome glint for the entire time the sun is in the position relative to the car's interior chrome. And his car is a hardtop, no sunroof, no convertible.

    Does the brushed chrome take care of that kind of reflected sunlight? I'd think it would be especially nice to cut down on reflections in the convertible, since you will get a lot more sun.

    Are there any parts that are still regular chrome in the Abarth GQ?

    I'm asking because I'm going to be moving to a sunny area, and I have the sunroof in my regular 500. It's been so long since I've been in a sunny summer area that gets warm, I'm thinking ahead a bit.

    And I'm sure there are oodles of 500C owners that have a commute or pleasure trip where they get a lot of glare off the chrome pieces. They might be able to reduce reflections by switching some of the trim parts to the brushed chrome.

    The part that bothered my brother the most was the center of the steering wheel. He doesn't have a Fiat. It's another brand. Is the steering wheel center of the Abarth GQ all brushed chrome? If so, can you post a pic?

    And are you going to give us any hints on what you have planned for the pair of GQs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NGEN View Post
    Just to confirm on a few things with this thread. We purchased two of the GQs (sold the Gucci Cabrio and "All Dolled Up"). Here are the differences between the GQ and Abarth Cabrio:

    1.) Suspension (FSD Struts, shocks, springs AND rear torsion bar) are exactly the same as the Abarth Cabrio
    2.) The inside is different: Sport style seats, round steering wheel, brushed metal accents instead of chrome, matching color matte dash as opposed to gloss, regular parking brake assembly as opposed to a black leather with red stitching, black stitching on the instrument cluster cover instead of red, black stitching on the shift knob instead of red.
    3.) Exterior wise it has the sport turbo Fiat badging, black trimmed lights, 16" sport wheels with a red interior rim.
    4.) The exhaust either came with a sport style dual MUFFLER or sport race exhaust (same as Abarth). It was hit or miss which one it came with.
    5.) There were only two options for the GQ. Base model GQ came with the Alpine Stereo and manual AC controls. No heated seats. However, the plug for the Beats sub is there. The second option is Beats subwoofer/amp and auto climate control with heated seats.
    6.) It doesn't come with the Abarth track experience but they do send you an "Abarth" welcome packet in the mail with scorpion stickers.
    7.) When you purchase the car, the VIN says "Fiat Abarth"
    8.) The engine cover is from the Sport Turbo

    Hope this helps anyone that has any questions on the difference. I have confirmed all of this by taking apart both of them as we are prepping our new fleet for the Spring season (which we will of course unveil sometime in April).
    You should be unveiling it at the Fiat on the Dragon event Bryan...but I think you know this already. Glenn says you think it is too far...just drive faster!!!

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